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Old 07-27-2003, 07:59 PM   #1
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Default MTX-3, NTC3 graphite upper bumper any good?

i am thinking of buying the square carbon upper bumper plate for the mtx-3

i am getting it because it looks good

however, there is one worry
under a hard impact, if the carbon upper bumper plate does not break, will something else on the car break?

cuz the energy has to go somehwere...


but also, i see many NTC3 drivers use it on their cars, anyone encountered problems with it?

thx for opinions & advice

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Old 07-27-2003, 08:20 PM   #2
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if the impact is too big carbon will break...even metal will bend....
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Old 07-28-2003, 06:13 AM   #3
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I've had it for weeks now and besides looking sweet,it has a purpose.It wont warp like the plastic parts tend to so the body posts are always straight.Its gone through some big hits with no problems as well.
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I was thinking, would the soft plastic stock plate provide better protection than the carbon one?

because it is soft, then the bending and warping of the plastic piece will "use up" much of the energy during the collision.

But with carbon, the energy will not be used up, because carbon will not bend, so therefore, the energy goes to other places and wreck other things.?

did mugen make the front piece soft for a reason?

just a thought
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Old 07-28-2003, 12:27 PM   #5
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does anyone else use the carbon bumper have a say in this?

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Old 07-28-2003, 06:25 PM   #6
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I was thinking, would the soft plastic stock plate provide better protection than the carbon one?

because it is soft, then the bending and warping of the plastic piece will "use up" much of the energy during the collision.

But with carbon, the energy will not be used up, because carbon will not bend, so therefore, the energy goes to other places and wreck other things.?

did mugen make the front piece soft for a reason?

just a thought
To me, i use plastic coz its cheaper if i happen to crash...
carbon look sweet but too expensive to maintain..
coz i crash alot..
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The upper plate does not absorb impacts as the bottom bumper does.It basically sandwiches the foam bumper to the plastic bumper.Almost all the energy is absorbed by the plastic bumper and foam so its really not an issue.
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The upper plate does not absorb impacts as the bottom bumper does.It basically sandwiches the foam bumper to the plastic bumper.Almost all the energy is absorbed by the plastic bumper and foam so its really not an issue.
Just a quick fact.... if you run the CF upper bumper deck, your car will look good, but if you crash (and I'll assure that shit happens) the stiffer CF bumper deck with put all the crash energy into the front bulkheads giving a sure possibility of breaking/ripping/distorting them.

Prefeer to not look so good and get the possibility of ending after a bad crash rather than DNF.
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This is from my experience,I have had hard impacts to the front plastic and foam bumpers with no problems.I even chipped my carbon bumper brace with no other breaks.In my oppinion the plastic and foam bumpers absorb 99% of all front impacts.Unless you hit a board at full throttle it may crack the carbon plate but by then you may have other issues.

And yes it looks sweet
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the thing is, i am using the foam bumper along with the smaller plastic bumper (the one below)

so maybe the plastic bumper will not absorb as much energy.....
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From my experience on last weekend series race, using the CF top bumper, it crack on the post side when someone T-bone me from the front side. It also pop out my front knuckle from the pivot ball. If i had use the stock, it would had absorb the impact and probably just bend the plastic part.
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i see many NTC3 drivers using a carbon upper bumper plate on their cars


anyone running a NTC3 has a comment on this?
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the thing is, i am using the foam bumper along with the smaller plastic bumper (the one below)

so maybe the plastic bumper will not absorb as much energy.....
It seems to be me, no matter what we say, you are on using the carbon thingy, you just wanted to hear good comments on it..

Well since you have it might as well use it..or rather you have spare cash, buy it, it does look sweet to me...
Me, i rather spend on fuel and tyres..
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It seems to be me, no matter what we say, you are on using the carbon thingy, you just wanted to hear good comments on it..

Well since you have it might as well use it..or rather you have spare cash, buy it, it does look sweet to me...
Me, i rather spend on fuel and tyres..
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great point, Vinyard.

Now, for those who want to buy, make sure you buy the SQUARE one, not others.

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