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Old 05-02-2008, 08:23 AM   #16
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I'm not opposed to the extra wheel/tire diameter, but I think that's where it should stop. Use 220mm class as a true GT with TC bodies and bigger/wider foams.

If you're going to use floating mounts and lolas then we're basically bringing back 235mm.
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I like the floating mount.....
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Every 4 years or so On-road racing goes in a new/different direction. Either a class is dropped or a new one is tried... ie. 235mm died while the TC 200mm took off, some tried the 200mm Euro truck body class that lasted all of 2 years due to bad handling. I really believe 1/10 220mm on-road could be the shot in the arm that the 1/10 scale needs. You don't have to buy a new car to really enjoy the true benefits of on-road racing and those that still have there 235mm, can dust them off and compete against the 220mm. As many have notice here in the US. that many racers are selling there 200mm TC's and are moving up the 1/8th scale... Why? Racers always want to go faster, Racers have concerns with cost and money and they want something different to enjoy. The goal is try to help the hobby grow and bring new interest... IMO, 1/10 220mm could be a great move for RC racing and not just a gimmick for the moment if given the chance. Shoot, to convert a 200mm for less then $100.00 USD and be able to drive faster, drive harder, more speed and have a better handling car.... I see nothing wrong with that...

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Every 4 years or so On-road racing goes in a new/different direction. Either a class is dropped or a new one is tried... ie. 235mm died while the TC 200mm took off, some tried the 200mm Euro truck body class that lasted all of 2 years due to bad handling. I really believe 1/10 220mm on-road could be the shot in the arm that the 1/10 scale needs. You don't have to buy a new car to really enjoy the true benefits of on-road racing and those that still have there 235mm, can dust them off and compete against the 220mm. As many have notice here in the US. that many racers are selling there 200mm TC's and are moving up the 1/8th scale... Why? Racers always want to go faster, Racers have concerns with cost and money and they want something different to enjoy. The goal is try to help the hobby grow and bring new interest... IMO, 1/10 220mm could be a great move for RC racing and not just a gimmick for the moment if given the chance. Shoot, to convert a 200mm for less then $100.00 USD and be able to drive faster, drive harder, more speed and have a better handling car.... I see nothing wrong with that...

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It looks like for now, this 220mm is a West Coast thing. Here in Texas, I have brought this up with many racers that I compete against. Here, back in the early 2000s, 235mm was the "in" thing. Most that I have talked to said that if you are going to do this, just bring 235mm back. It was a fun class (both 2wd and 4wd) but became a casualty of the "money" war which pushed its cost in the 1/8th scale range. Back then, I was not a fan of the "spec class" thing but in hindsight, having more "spec"-type classes would have saved a few classes and possibly kept attendance up in many locations. I will still stand by my "bring the 235mm class back" statement made on a related thread to this topic.
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It looks like for now, this 220mm is a West Coast thing. Here in Texas, I have brought this up with many racers that I compete against. Here, back in the early 2000s, 235mm was the "in" thing. Most that I have talked to said that if you are going to do this, just bring 235mm back. It was a fun class (both 2wd and 4wd) but became a casualty of the "money" war which pushed its cost in the 1/8th scale range. Back then, I was not a fan of the "spec class" thing but in hindsight, having more "spec"-type classes would have saved a few classes and possibly kept attendance up in many locations. I will still stand by my "bring the 235mm class back" statement made on a related thread to this topic.

Noone is stopping you and your friends to bring out your 235mm class. Ultimately the market will decide which class survives....
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Noone is stopping you and your friends to bring out your 235mm class. Ultimately the market will decide which class survives....
Well, my opinion is that this niche class will go the way of the 200mm outlaw class. Not enough participation outside of Southern Cal will kill it off eventually. Good luck to the guys that are jumping into this with both feet, just be prepared when turnouts fall off and eventual go completely away.
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Well, I guess I'm in favor of this. It will move TC guys further away from where they are (200mm) and closer to where they eventually will be (1/8 scale).
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Check out this Kawahara 220mm V-One-RRR conversion in action.

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Kawahara kits are US$80. Includes bumper, tires, and body shell. PM me if you're interested.
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Every 4 years or so On-road racing goes in a new/different direction. Either a class is dropped or a new one is tried... ie. 235mm died while the TC 200mm took off, some tried the 200mm Euro truck body class that lasted all of 2 years due to bad handling. I really believe 1/10 220mm on-road could be the shot in the arm that the 1/10 scale needs. You don't have to buy a new car to really enjoy the true benefits of on-road racing and those that still have there 235mm, can dust them off and compete against the 220mm. As many have notice here in the US. that many racers are selling there 200mm TC's and are moving up the 1/8th scale... Why? Racers always want to go faster, Racers have concerns with cost and money and they want something different to enjoy. The goal is try to help the hobby grow and bring new interest... IMO, 1/10 220mm could be a great move for RC racing and not just a gimmick for the moment if given the chance. Shoot, to convert a 200mm for less then $100.00 USD and be able to drive faster, drive harder, more speed and have a better handling car.... I see nothing wrong with that...

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I have to agree I have seen more and more people who would love to drive 8th scale but cant deal with the cost. This class however will be the best of both world. After some track exposer this will take off.
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Check out this Kawahara 220mm V-One-RRR conversion in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBOah7AoHaU

Kawahara kits are US$80. Includes bumper, tires, and body shell. PM me if you're interested.
Yes, that is sweet. I especially like how the 1:8 lets off so the 1:10 can pass him. It makes it look like the 1:10 is faster. That is a neat trick! Are you the one driving the 1:8 and some buddy of yours is driving the 220mm? Did you want to make it look faster so you could sell some of these kits? This is rediculous.
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Yes, that is sweet. I especially like how the 1:8 lets off so the 1:10 can pass him. It makes it look like the 1:10 is faster. That is a neat trick! Are you the one driving the 1:8 and some buddy of yours is driving the 220mm? Did you want to make it look faster so you could sell some of these kits? This is rediculous.
Or could it be that the 220 car is being driven by a better driver....or maybe the 220 car is set up better...or that 1/10 cars are faster on tighter tracks. Could be all that. I didn't need this video to make the decision to buy the conversion kit....and I race 1/8!!!!
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LOL, breathe JetMD it isn't the end of the world if some people buy this....
How about posting every R/C purchase you've made so we can approve it...
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Any hobby shops ordering these kits into the US...?
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LOL, breathe JetMD it isn't the end of the world if some people buy this....
How about posting every R/C purchase you've made so we can approve it...
Hehehe...... Hey JetMD, I want to buy LED lights for my car (got it from tamiya ), am I going to hurt this hobby ? I'm worried my friends and I must accept three cars running a class.
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