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Old 06-22-2010, 05:37 AM   #2236
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went to mount my steering servo and was surprised by how much the servo sits in compared the the RRR topplate..

the servo is liturally sitting 0.5mm away from touching the mid-shaft
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went to mount my steering servo and was surprised by how much the servo sits in compared the the RRR topplate..

the servo is liturally sitting 0.5mm away from touching the mid-shaft
you can make this and with the rrr deck too.just use more spacers behind the servo arms,in my car i have ream the servo screw to avoid touch the axle.
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RRR Xray Edition begins!...

got 1 problem already.. how the hell do i mount a receiver or any type of receiver box, etc.. as you can see, the side which is servo is mount (which is ussually where the receiver box fits).. has no lip, holes or anything to mount a receiver box.... i thinking just double siding tape the receiever to the side of the servo.

Pic of the car with the topplate and brake hub installed -


comparsion of the top plate a big difference!..


comparion of the RRR clutchbell compared to capricorn clutch.
there are 2 option to mode the receiver.
you can tape it in the servo like you said or
you can mode it in the other side between pipe and tank.
you choose.
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there are 2 option to mode the receiver.
you can tape it in the servo like you said or
you can mode it in the other side between pipe and tank.
you choose.
hi, i double side it to the side of my receiver and then wrap it in tape..

now waiting on nt1 diffs... but unsure what oil to use.
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Dude how do u plan to make xray diffs work in a RRR?
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Dude how do u plan to make xray diffs work in a RRR?
ill post up the details on 'how to install xray diffs in a RRR' in a few days when i get everything together
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:38 PM   #2242
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hello xray diff... RRR now better than ever..



size comparison.


weight comparsion
stock xray diff - 37g (without oil)
RRR diff with titanium bevel shaft - 47g.. without bevel shaft 50+g.

xray diff with capricorn carbon gears and xray lightweight outdrive shafts - 24g
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looking good mate

is there going to be any testing done this weekend?

i want to see how much time this translates to on the track.
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:44 AM   #2244
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hello xray diff... RRR now better than ever..



size comparison.


weight comparsion
stock xray diff - 37g (without oil)
RRR diff with titanium bevel shaft - 47g.. without bevel shaft 50+g.

xray diff with capricorn carbon gears and xray lightweight outdrive shafts - 24g
nice work!
LiL_JaSoN how about the rear diff?
in front:does have the cvds enough room in the outdrives?
keep us informed!
at the end tell us how much cost all of this to u.
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nice work!
LiL_JaSoN how about the rear diff?
in front:does have the cvds enough room in the outdrives?
keep us informed!
at the end tell us how much cost all of this to u.
rear will go in next week, i am still waiting on the bearings.. so no testing this week. hopefully next week.

the cvd sits just on the end of the cup, i might use dogbones or the you can use rear cvd on the front as they are longer

another option is, if your cvd are worn out. instead of replacing the entire cvd, you can just replace the shaft with xray ones. xray sells just the shaft itself, while with kyosho, you have to buy the entire CVD for double the price.
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rear will go in next week, i am still waiting on the bearings.. so no testing this week. hopefully next week.

the cvd sits just on the end of the cup, i might use dogbones or the you can use rear cvd on the front as they are longer

another option is, if your cvd are worn out. instead of replacing the entire cvd, you can just replace the shaft with xray ones. xray sells just the shaft itself, while with kyosho, you have to buy the entire CVD for double the price.
Kyosho sells the shaft by itself. I assume you are talking about the longer part that is about the length of the a-arm. If that is what you speak of, that is available seperately and has been for quite a while. The short part that the wheel screws onto is not available by itself as far as I know.
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Kyosho sells the shaft by itself. I assume you are talking about the longer part that is about the length of the a-arm. If that is what you speak of, that is available seperately and has been for quite a while. The short part that the wheel screws onto is not available by itself as far as I know.
and to top it off, kyosho doesn't charge you $35 per cvd like xray (last I checked) but they are something like $35 for the pair.
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Thinking about the rear diff since it's the most important to me, I have both sitting in front of me finally.

to the inside of the bearing, the RRR diff is 18.7mm wide and the NT1 diff is 20.6 but it does have some extra material that could be ground to let the bearing sit as close as 18.0mm. I don't have the right 10x18 bearing, but my initial test was using the 12x18 (which happens to be the size of the raised portion that you would be cutting to make the diff narrow so it fit for testing purposes) and the belt was slightly off toward the right (rear viewing angle) and taking the material off of the left side of the diff (the easiest side, there is 1.2mm on one side and 1.6mm on the left) would offset the belt more to being less on the pulley.

the overall diameter although 1 tooth off, is actually 1 full mm smaller at 38.4 from the rrr's 39.4. the belt is a bit loose if the eccentrics are at their potential max location assuming you had a slot there, I didn't grind the caps to find out yet so no testing here either.

full width on the rrr is 52mm, and the NT1 is 53.5 with dogbone width at 32 and 36mm(nt1) so you will have to run the dogbones with the thick ring for the 2mm setup with 0 offset hubs.

I really wish Shimo would have come up with something to combat the 50+ grams of drivetrain weight that all of the other cars have on the RRR at the moment. Instead we get a car with a top deck, a copy cat clutch, some coated shocks attached to towers with nearly 30 holes and the parts are silver now instead of blue.... cool
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guys,has anyone try the plastic diff gears from Knack?
i think it must be a lot cheaper and easier to put just a set of these,make some trimming in caps and case than buy-mod a xray diff.
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Thinking about the rear diff since it's the most important to me, I have both sitting in front of me finally.

to the inside of the bearing, the RRR diff is 18.7mm wide and the NT1 diff is 20.6 but it does have some extra material that could be ground to let the bearing sit as close as 18.0mm. I don't have the right 10x18 bearing, but my initial test was using the 12x18 (which happens to be the size of the raised portion that you would be cutting to make the diff narrow so it fit for testing purposes) and the belt was slightly off toward the right (rear viewing angle) and taking the material off of the left side of the diff (the easiest side, there is 1.2mm on one side and 1.6mm on the left) would offset the belt more to being less on the pulley.

the overall diameter although 1 tooth off, is actually 1 full mm smaller at 38.4 from the rrr's 39.4. the belt is a bit loose if the eccentrics are at their potential max location assuming you had a slot there, I didn't grind the caps to find out yet so no testing here either.

full width on the rrr is 52mm, and the NT1 is 53.5 with dogbone width at 32 and 36mm(nt1) so you will have to run the dogbones with the thick ring for the 2mm setup with 0 offset hubs.

I really wish Shimo would have come up with something to combat the 50+ grams of drivetrain weight that all of the other cars have on the RRR at the moment. Instead we get a car with a top deck, a copy cat clutch, some coated shocks attached to towers with nearly 30 holes and the parts are silver now instead of blue.... cool
Brian,the extra 50gr,is with stock drive train in both cars?
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