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Old 06-03-2003, 10:01 PM   #16
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Popsrace, it's the same. I have visited most of the engine manufacturers in Italy and when looking at their teams "race engines" one thing realy suprised me. This is how stock they look. There usualy is verry little modification done to them with the exception of some minor crank work and clean up on the case / sleeve. I asked about this and what I found is that when they build team engiens what these guys do is pull 100+ engines and measure every single component in the engine. What they do is pick only the pieces that have the tightest tollerences i.e. perfectly round sleeves, super straight connecting rods, cases where the crank bearings are perfectly alligned. So out of the 100+ engines they start with they end up with the components to make about 15 perfect engines. These 15 engines are then assembled and tested on the dyno and on the track by the driver. Out of these he will usuay end up with between 5-10 engines that are realy good. These are cleaned, oiled and bagged for use by the driver over the season.

Heres some food for thought. When you buy something like an RB Team engine which is broken in and tested on the dyno at a premium of $100+ over the non team engine. Do you realy think that you are getting the best ones?
Very interesting discovery for me! Is it realy happened like that? So it means most of the guys- non team drivers-are competing on the same engines as a team drivers?
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Well that sux. We just bought that engine for my brothers V-One R hoping to kick some butt at the track. I'm pretty dissapointed. They were waay off on the ratings.
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Old 06-03-2003, 10:22 PM   #18
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Very interesting discovery for me! Is it realy happened like that? So it means most of the guys- non team drivers-are competing on the same engines as a team drivers?
It means that most of the non-team guys have the same basic engines as the team guys. Notice I said basic, as you know all of the power comes form the details.
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Old 06-03-2003, 10:31 PM   #19
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It means that most of the non-team guys have the same basic engines as the team guys. Notice I said basic, as you know all of the power comes form the details.
You right! This is the way has to be! If company wants to sell its product-the team has to use the same base, details-it is up to the mechanic and racer. I was wondering if the way how they select engines ( in the factory team) that like it was explaned earlier? They have to run 100 engines and choose 10 out of them?
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Old 06-04-2003, 03:27 PM   #20
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Guys;

I have heard and always suspected that Factory supported Drivers have access to the best equipment (and why not). It is certaintly evident in Electric, especially with batteries.

Just wondered if anyone had seen radical differences in identical (store bought) Nitro Engines before.

Just got to say that I'm glad NOT to be a Pro Driver, too much StReSs involved! (at my ripe old age)

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I have visited most of the engine manufacturers in Italy and when looking at their teams "race engines" one thing realy suprised me.
true and false. Your talking before they leave the factory, which is not insignificant.(hand picked assys) Its what happens after they leave and no matter how many times Pieter Beroviets tells me their team engines are stock I have eyes and have seen Michael Salvins 21 splayed open at FT Myers and so who is he kiddin. I can tell you the US guys that run for Novarossi get just the hand picked stuff. Like I said its the what happens after that that makes a huge difference.

I have some of those Quote stock factory team engines comming this way right now for a quote factory guy that runs a quote factory stock engine. LOL
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Being an unhappy veteq owner...I wouldn't believe anything that comes out of pieters mouth..


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It's the carb adapter from Hardcore made for the MT12.
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Like emeril sez !BAM

I feel fer you dude. I resisted the temptation when that thing came out, and took alot of heat from naysayers. Technically cool, technically a nightmare.
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There was an article in the latest Xtreme or R/C Car where Drake used the Lunsford adaptor to put an OS carb in his Picco, they also said the Hardcore one worked. The Lunsford one should be better since the shoulder isn't as thick as Hardcore's keeping the carb closer to it's intended height.
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The I.D. on the Carb Throats is the same on Picco and Novarossi engines. I use NR Carbs on my Picco's all the time, so either adapter should work fine.
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Ok, good. Cause this carb is a pain to tune. We can't even get it running for more than 10 seconds. Gonna try and put an O.S. carb in.
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