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Old 04-17-2004, 04:52 PM   #991
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RC Alan, I don't even use the little dust wipers on the rails. I spray my rails with straight silicone and clean them after each run. I've found you can get just a little more steering without the dust pads being installed because the slider will go all the way against the bulkheads.

This won't create a problem as long as there is a square edge on the face of the bushing at the ID; it acts as a wiper to clean the rails. If there is any kind of angle on the ID edge, however, it will fail because it literally will try to push debris into the bushing and cause it to bind.

If you don't need the extra steering you can actually increase the length of the bushing so it sticks out past the slider and this will help immemsely with keeping the slop out of the system as there is a lot more bearing surface to counteract the steering torque.

The thing I like about this bushing setup is it is higher toleranced than the factory piece, which means you don't have to tension the rails to keep the slop out of the system. All of this means the servo doesn't have to do nearly as much work, responds quicker, and centers better.

Gotta go; club race is tomorrow and my centax needs a little lovin'.
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Old 04-18-2004, 12:22 AM   #992
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Club race tomorrow also... Going over my car as well... thanks for the tips... Good luck.

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Old 04-18-2004, 08:25 AM   #993
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I'm now a believer. After every weekend I will be taking the bearings out of my centax and soaking them in WD-40 to clean them. 3 times now, the inner bearing of the centax has seized due to debris inside the bearing. It won't keep the car from running, but it does mess up the clutch engagement and it wants to spin the gears at idle speed.
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Old 04-18-2004, 07:57 PM   #994
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RC_Alan,

I kinda thought you would run the Speedline race in Vegas? Aren't you getting better? In any event, I'm looking for a G4 pro, but I heard the G4 EVO is coming out? Chat with you later!!
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Old 04-18-2004, 09:33 PM   #995
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Hey Kmac,

I have found that if you use a single shim between the inner bearing and the clutch nut, Your bearing will not seize.

Have you tried that? I've been using the same bearing for like five races. I've only recently changed my clutch bearings to Ceramic. But when I removed it, it was still in perfect shape.
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Old 04-19-2004, 05:51 AM   #996
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No, I haven't tried that, but I'll give it a shot.

On a sad note, my car took a heavy shot in the right front from another car and it somehow tweaked my steering rail alignments, causing my home brewed servo saver to bind. I didn't have time to realign it and test it to see if it would be OK; I put the original back on and finished the day out with that. If you can call 3 DNF's in quals and a DNF in the main "finishing the day out".

It seems on a long left-handed turn (270 degree turn) my Sirio flames out the instant I let off the gas for a right hairpin at the end of the left turn. Exact same spot every time and it's got me madder than he!!. I can't figure it out, it always starts right back up but I can't continue on this way.

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Old 04-19-2004, 10:09 AM   #997
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Kmac.. You might want ot try another motor in there that you know it's tune right just to make sure... On another note... I have something to announce and to some, it might not be good news. I'm 80% sure that I will be switching cars and giving up on the G4... I think between me and kmac, we have done everything possible to fix/correct/modify and bulletproof the steering setup on that car. You all know how much I loved the car and posted here to try to help everyone that I could. No one from Trinity posts here... There own website deleted all G4 forum Tech help because of all the negative posting of the G4 steering setup and problems with it.... When I get back from work, I'll post all my findings and share with you all the problems that can't be fixed with the steering setup. Again, for those who have the G4 and like the car... I'm not telling you to give up or change cars... This is a hobby, but when you know that there is a design flaw in the car that you and I just can't fix..... Why try to beat your head into the ground trying to when the designers won't and there team drivers won't even share any tips on there own website.... Nicko from TM has been a big help and thanks again. I won't mention what car I'm swithing to and anyone want's my G4... you can PM me. I know this is not popular or very positive stuff. I'll post all my findings later on this evening and you be the judge. Not trying to flame anyone... I'm just throwing in the towel.

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Rc_Alan- Wow, what a bummer Alan sorry to hear that. I have my car about 90% done... Just need a steering servo. Anyway Alan I totally respect your judgment. I would like to say thanks for all your inputs on G4. If you could PM on what car you're switching to your secret will be kept with me. I'm just curious because I have several cars and I'm just wondering. So are you just fed up with the steering problem or just support about the whole car??? I mean is the steering problem that bad??? Everybody that I show my car too says man nice car but that steering is going to bind. Mine is kinda tight. When I add a oil to it. It loosens up a little bit. But I'm kinda getting scared about this car. Not just by your post but in looking at the car in general. I seen a G4 a few weeks ago at my track racing the oval and blam it got taco'ed. The guy couldn't understand how he lost his steering. It just makes me wonder??? I have to be honest I only driven a friends G4 a couple of times (I'm waiting to have my car done) but I love my MTX-3 and I'm hoping that the G4 is close. I'm going to switch my V one to an Evo or the RRR and choose between the three cars. But please post your inputs or PM me....

Again sorry to hear about your G4 but thanks for helping us out on the forum...............
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Kmac.. You might want ot try another motor in there that you know it's tune right just to make sure... On another note... I have something to announce and to some, it might not be good news. I'm 80% sure that I will be switching cars and giving up on the G4... I think between me and kmac, we have done everything possible to fix/correct/modify and bulletproof the steering setup on that car. You all know how much I loved the car and posted here to try to help everyone that I could. No one from Trinity posts here... There own website deleted all G4 forum Tech help because of all the negative posting of the G4 steering setup and problems with it.... When I get back from work, I'll post all my findings and share with you all the problems that can't be fixed with the steering setup. Again, for those who have the G4 and like the car... I'm not telling you to give up or change cars... This is a hobby, but when you know that there is a design flaw in the car that you and I just can't fix..... Why try to beat your head into the ground trying to when the designers won't and there team drivers won't even share any tips on there own website.... Nicko from TM has been a big help and thanks again. I won't mention what car I'm swithing to and anyone want's my G4... you can PM me. I know this is not popular or very positive stuff. I'll post all my findings later on this evening and you be the judge. Not trying to flame anyone... I'm just throwing in the towel.

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Please do post your thoughts on the problems with the car. This weekend was pimpedaccord and I's first track time with the car and we were very pleased with the car. Though the steering rack may be a challenge for some to set up (including myself ) we had no problems what so ever with at the track. The only maintenance done to the steering rack was blowing the car off between runs? I am new to the G4 board so I may be missing something?
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Kmac- are you running your engine with a fuel filter???? You say engine just flames out??? Same spot? I had a problem like that when my running my Yok. I changed all fuel tubing and pulled my fuel filter and it worked. I'm guessing it's somethng centrifical meaning that fuel is not getting to the engine at that 270 degree turn. Also is it doing this when the tank is full?? Can you take a pic of the car top view with close up around the enging and carb area?? Also like Rc_Alan said put another motor to see what that does. Process of elimination... Good luck.. Get that car to get TQ not DNS .......


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whoops I meant DNF instead of DNS
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Old 04-19-2004, 11:31 AM   #1002
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Not running a fuel filter. I've changed fuel tubing; I've gone from short to long on the fuel feed and on the pressure line to the tank. When the engine flames out and I go get the car there's no bubbles in the fuel line, no air pockets, nothing but fuel.
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My brand new car is in the for sale section if anyone is interested.
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rc_alan, if you are switching, I like everybody else, will be sorry to see you leave the g4. Even before i became a member i saw your posts and they were always very helpful and smart. You have given me advice on numerous occasions and it has always helped Anyway, thanks for everything and if you do switch cars, good luck Just wanted to give a fellow member some love (no, im not gay), and now seemed like a good time. Hope you decide to keep with the g4!
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