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Old 08-31-2007, 05:34 PM   #106
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Roger looks good now I want to paint mine and thank you for making your wheel wells ROUND some people just dont know how S*I&y wheel wells kills the look of the body!!!
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:39 PM   #107
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Alright. Im on the track computer right now and this body is fairly stable, but with lots of low speed steering as I said earlier. High speed cornering is ok with a slight understeer going into the corner. In my opinion, this body will be good for short tight tracks with lots of 180's for me. Fastest lap time was 16.4 on this particular track. I tried the 3.1 status and I managed to put down a 15.9 ( previously fastest lap for me was 16.1 ). The DNA 3 has the same characteristics as the Parma M body IMO. But, its nice to have another body from protoform just to get you dialed in any track configuration weather it be a small tight track to a wide open high flowing track.
Between the Stratus and the DNA 3, did you make any setup changes? I'm wondering if you could cleanup that understeer by making some adjustments.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:30 PM   #108
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Between the Stratus and the DNA 3, did you make any setup changes? I'm wondering if you could cleanup that understeer by making some adjustments.
Nope, no changes to the suspension because I wanted to see the difference between both bodies with the same set-up. I opened up some sections of the track to make it alot more flowing right after my post and I put the DNA 3 body back on ( after 5:00pm ) just out of curiosity. With happyhour after 5pm, traction was up and the body handled pretty good. Good entry and exit of the corner. It held it's line throttling out of the corner. Just like one of the members said here earlier, " stable ". That's what it was during happyhour, stable with lots of steering.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:10 AM   #109
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I think its safe to stay the preferred choice for most racers. I spend Sunday working with the body doing comparison with wing placement & size and although I was able to get consistent and reasonable lap times the best I could get was a steady .2sec lap off of the Stratus baseline I ran. The test had a mixed layout of 150ft with low grip.

In technical sections the wing cut to ROAR specs the body felt great through corner exit and with bit more steering through mid turn. High speed stability was very poor especially through on power and entry and exits. With a bit of chassis work I was able to get some stability through the high speed sections but in doing so lost all the low speed gains over the stratus. In general the balance felt off with an increasing forward bias as speeds rose. Lap times peaked ~ .8sec lap of my stratus pace and were less consistent. Wing placement was best mounting in the rearmost position.

with the full size wing the body felt much more balanced, easy to drive with a stratus like feel. High speed sections were stable good steering through corner entry. low speed sections were smooth and steady with a slight push from middle out. Wing placement was best using the middle wing hole with the rear body mount hole. I was able to lap consistently with good pace but just couldn't rear my stratus times, I think the loss was on the infield were the DNA pushed and the stratus didn't.

Overall I would say the DNA's aero setup has too much forward bias(when cut legal) to archive both high speed stability and low speed response at the same time. Perhaps on a higher grip surface that was all open or all technical it would do well. It drives more like a mazda6, good for specific conditions but not the normal choice.

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Old 09-04-2007, 11:16 AM   #110
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Thanks for the excellent write-up Mark.
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Thanks for that excellently written post. I've sent you a PM.

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I finally got to test my DNA this previous weekend at the Paris race. I struggled with a loose car the entire time but the DNA was definitely more planted and I was way more comfortable driving the DNA than I was the Stratus. I want to try the body at a time that my car pushes and see how it responds. I don't know if it has less front pressure or more rear pressure. Either way I would give this a try if you struggle with a loose sedan. Bottom line is that I was closer in my qual times to Jeffrey Lin and Marc Cruz than I have ever been so I know I am going in the right direction. I am definitely taking some of these to the sedan nats. The DNA definitely has a place in competetive RC racing.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:02 PM   #113
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I finally got to test my DNA this previous weekend at the Paris race. I struggled with a loose car the entire time but the DNA was definitely more planted and I was way more comfortable driving the DNA than I was the Stratus. I want to try the body at a time that my car pushes and see how it responds. I don't know if it has less front pressure or more rear pressure. Either way I would give this a try if you sturggle with a loose sedan. Bottom line is that I was closer in my qual times to Jeffrey Lin and Marc Cruz than I have ever been so I know I am going in the right direction. I am definitely taking some of these to the sedan nats. The DNA definitely has a place in competetive RC racing.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:04 PM   #114
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I've raced my DNA on small and medium tracks. Those types of tracks this body is very hard to beat! The only problem I see with running this body is getting too deep in the corners. The front air dam likes to touch corners.
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I've raced my DNA on small and medium tracks. Those types of tracks this body is very hard to beat! The only problem I see with running this body is getting too deep in the corners. The front air dam likes to touch corners.
Then trim it up a little. I have only run the body once, but I see this body being very good on big high speed tracks where you might need a little more planted feel. Like I said, I am taking some with me to the Nats along side my trusty Stratus..... All painted with Faskolor!!
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The front air dam likes to touch corners.
What I meant by that is that I take corners very tight. At the track that I sometimes run, the front spoiler sometimes catches the PVC corner marker when too tight of a turn. I don't drag a body.
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:42 PM   #118
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Here is a picture of my freshly painted DNA on my 720. I like it!!
Hey dude,

It worked very well with s720 right coz I have 1 too. And it earned me a podium position in A main at a local race here in Malaysia. Bravo.. gonna stick to this shell for sometime. BTW, did u try running ur car on solid axle??? U'll be amazed what the car can do while braking deeper into corners but u gotta use teflon brake pads.

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I love my DNA on short and medium size tracks. I'm on my second body since I posted my first report. The body give great steering to the 720. I have not tried it with a locked front. I've been running a one way for nice size tracks. I will have to try the locked/solid front some time. Congratulations on your wins with the DNA!! Keep representing the Snake also!

Here is my second DNA on my 720. So new I had not cut the vent holes or exaust yet!
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I love my DNA on short and medium size tracks. I'm on my second body since I posted my first report. The body give great steering to the 720. I have not tried it with a locked front. I've been running a one way for nice size tracks. I will have to try the locked/solid front some time. Congratulations on your wins with the DNA!! Keep representing the Snake also!

Here is my second DNA on my 720. So new I had not cut the vent holes or exaust yet!
Hahaha... I can understand that.. by the good looks of ur shell, if it would be me, I'll look at it all nite long.. BTW, if u wanna try the lock solid axle, u may wanna to do a conversion drive which gives ur car a little more bite to the front end. U will however need to change the brake pads to teflon type to give u smoother and deeper braking. Check out the conversion drive instruction at serpent site. Happy trying bro!!!

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