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Old 05-07-2003, 12:05 AM   #31
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Hyper 7= Hobao
LD3, 9.5= Hong Nor
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Old 05-07-2003, 05:49 AM   #32
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I'm currently building up a LD3 for review.
From what i've done so far the car is a big improvement over their OB4 nitro.
This car is in no way the same as a associated, which i have also built.
Hope to have the car finished for this w/end to do some testing.
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Old 05-07-2003, 05:58 AM   #33
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What version of it are you testing?
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Old 05-07-2003, 09:47 AM   #34
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This car is in no way the same as a associated, which i have also built.
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That's strange, I've talked to the guy running one at Rev and he agreed that it was extremely similar to the NTC3 -

same chassis
same layout
same upper deck
same tank system (although the Ofna has a PRIMER on it. . .)
yada x 3

the primary differences are the diffs - Ofna is using planetaries - the rear suspension - Ofna has changed the roll center - and is using the equivalent of AE Hopups (RD, etc.) for shock towers.

Definitely an evolutionary development of the NTC3. . .now, don't tell us it is "in no way the same" - tell us how it drives. Would be better if you had BOTH to compare. . .

Also - you're building it to review? Who you review for?
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Old 05-07-2003, 10:08 AM   #35
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i dont understand, why everyone is in a piss fit. RC is not an original design hobby anymore. everyone takes a proven design and expands on it so on and so forth.

obviously ofna saw the TC3s design. and thought "hey maybe i can do a few parts better"

dont bash it, its just being the run of the mill RC company
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Old 05-07-2003, 10:29 AM   #36
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Wasn't bashing it, was bashing the statement. . .

I did call it an evolutionary development - this is not a bad thing or we would still be monkeys!

Thread is about how it RUNS - so, I'm interested in that and would LOVE to know how well it runs. . .not in some yammer saying it's not similar to the NTC3 when each and every one of us can see that Ofna made evolutionary improvements (they hope and we want to know) to the NTC3. . .

I've said it before and will again - it looks like, looks like, Ofna took the weakest points of the NTC3 and replaced them with older-fashioned stronger pieces (planetary diffs instead of ball diffs, etc.) - this may not be a bad thing, but let's see how it WORKS!
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:56 PM   #37
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"Are the shocks on the Ofna LD3 VCD's the same as the NTC3, Universals frnt and rear? Are the Roll centres the same and how do the shock towers compare. i guess what i am asking is does a NTC3 setup work on the LD3's?"
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Old 05-07-2003, 05:37 PM   #38
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Wow the ofna pipe looks like an associated dual chamber and RD ntc3 pipe put together.
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Old 05-07-2003, 11:53 PM   #39
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I want that Centax-style "Push" clutch for my NTC3! I heard that it's a very light and compact design. Hope the pinions are the same pitch...
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Ofna is trying the LD3 out like a generic drug. AE makes the original, it's out for awhile, Ofna comes along with the same thing (basically) with a few changes and sells it for cheaper trying to get part of the business. If a new guy in nitro sees a LD3 and a TC3 on the shelf next to each other and the LD3 is 100 bucks cheaper, which one do you think he's going to pick? It's generic competition.

I use this example cause I work for a large pharmaceutical company that produces generic drugs.
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Ofna - Why mess with success when you can just copy it?
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I posted my review on the LD3 somewhere on this board when I first got it. After running the car, my impressions have been solidified. They are quite stable cars, with a bit of push with the stock shock oil and placement. Changing the oil gave it a much more neutral attitude. While the engine isn't too much to speak on, geared from the factory (15-42, 19-38) it's quick off the line and has a reasonable top end. With 30mm Nitro Shoes on the rear, it stays pretty planted. RTR or not, Hong Norr or not, it really is a very nice car and a viable alternative to the TC3 and should be taken seriously. Right now, parts support is scarce locally (and manyof the local shops are clowning me for even buying one, which pisses me off somewhat), but I can either order them from Nitrohouse or wait until they order them straight from Ofna.

The shocks on the RTRs are different (clear lexan plastic) than the TC3, and there are CVDs up front and bones in the rear. The shock towers are a bit beefier than the TC3 units and capture the upper arms
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I just decided to get tire truer..

teh ofna is 250..plus the carbibe bit(and you need to get the Hudy arbors,'cause teh OFNA ones are bad)..



the ofna is a copy of the hudy..which is 420..with the bit AND carrying case....


guess which one i ordered..


The hudy..OFNA's reputation precedes them.....and I DON"T like generic copys..so I voted with my dollars..


I hope OFNA is reading this.....there are people who have respect for quality..and ORIGINAL engineering...

and i'm one of them......


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I posted my review on the LD3 somewhere on this board when I first got it. After running the car, my impressions have been solidified. They are quite stable cars, with a bit of push with the stock shock oil and placement. Changing the oil gave it a much more neutral attitude. While the engine isn't too much to speak on, geared from the factory (15-42, 19-38) it's quick off the line and has a reasonable top end. With 30mm Nitro Shoes on the rear, it stays pretty planted. RTR or not, Hong Norr or not, it really is a very nice car and a viable alternative to the TC3 and should be taken seriously. Right now, parts support is scarce locally (and manyof the local shops are clowning me for even buying one, which pisses me off somewhat), but I can either order them from Nitrohouse or wait until they order them straight from Ofna.

The shocks on the RTRs are different (clear lexan plastic) than the TC3, and there are CVDs up front and bones in the rear. The shock towers are a bit beefier than the TC3 units and capture the upper arms
spenzalii: Thanks for your post.... With regards to the shock towers are the mounting holes etc in the same place as the NTC3 and how do the roll centres differ?
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