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Old 04-22-2003, 08:09 PM   #16
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Yeah, it stings when you get burned like this. I have had good internet transactions though. For example, there is one guy in Chicago named Anthony Orillo who is great to deal with. Good prices and never screws you around. The problem is determining who is decent and who is an a$$hole.
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:16 PM   #17
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Yeah, it stings when you get burned like this. I have had good internet transactions though. For example, there is one guy in Chicago named Anthony Orillo who is great to deal with. Good prices and never screws you around. The problem is determining who is decent and who is an a$$hole.
Do you think there feedback is reliable? Cause you still can get sting, if there good.
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:17 PM   #18
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paulfitipauldi: that sounds remarkably familiar. that is the guy....
I'm really sorry for your situation,, but if we are talking about the same person, a good way to have your money back is to say him that you are going to mess up with his feedback and notify the situation to Ebay, if this person really cares about his reputation he will send you the refund!! that's the way I managed!!

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Old 04-22-2003, 08:32 PM   #19
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Ebay only gives 30 days to provide feedback. I wanted to see if an engine would show up before I left him nasty feedback. It ended up taking so long that I now can't give him feedback. If it doesn't work out, I will get in touch with Ebay directly.

As for the MT-12, I don't know if I want to keep it or not. I wanted a new engine that would be a substantial improvement from an OS TR. It seems to me the MT-12 is somewhere in between the TR and the S5 I originally wanted. Will I be happy with the Mt-12, or should I try to return it or sell it?
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:43 PM   #20
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you should be happy with the mt12, but still thats not the engine you were supposed to get, thats s-it is just wrong.
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:49 PM   #21
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BTW,, Chachi i kept the MT12 its a really good engine, first thing i did with him, put it apart and grind it,, now My 705 hang with the 1/8 scale at the track!!

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Old 04-22-2003, 08:55 PM   #22
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Ebay only gives 30 days to provide feedback. I wanted to see if an engine would show up before I left him nasty feedback. It ended up taking so long that I now can't give him feedback. If it doesn't work out, I will get in touch with Ebay directly.

As for the MT-12, I don't know if I want to keep it or not. I wanted a new engine that would be a substantial improvement from an OS TR. It seems to me the MT-12 is somewhere in between the TR and the S5 I originally wanted. Will I be happy with the Mt-12, or should I try to return it or sell it?

I believe You can leave feedback for at least 90 days on ebay.

Everyone here listed good suggestions except you should use c2it over paypal. Don't waste your time trying to get anything out of paypal when you get burned - they are worthless.

Also C.O.D. won't really protect you either. You just have to be willing to win some and lose some in these sort of things...sad but true.
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Old 04-22-2003, 08:58 PM   #23
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I believe You can leave feedback for at least 90 days on ebay.

Everyone here listed good suggestions except you should use c2it over paypal. Don't waste your time trying to get anything out of paypal when you get burned - they are worthless.

Also C.O.D. won't really protect you either. You just have to be willing to win some and lose some in these sort of things...sad but true.
Whay COD won't be safe?
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Old 04-22-2003, 09:00 PM   #24
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Ah yes, I needed to hit the feedback tab. Like you said, it allows you to go back 90 days instead of just 30.....
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Old 04-22-2003, 09:02 PM   #25
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Buying something on Ebay from an individual is to me, like buying a Rolex from a Guy in a dark alley with a long coat full of watches. Sure is a good deal, but once you take a really good look at it. It's not what you thought you were paying for.

I personally will only purchase goods from a verifiable source (Name, address, phone #), preferably from a place of business that has something to lose so they are not likely to rip you off.
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Whay COD won't be safe?
C.O.D. is not really protection because most of the time the seller is going to require a money order or cashier's check for payment.

You cannot take posession of the package until after you have paid for it, so you don't know what you're getting till your money is gone. All C.O.D. assures you is that the seller will at least send something.

The only way to be fully protected is to use escrow services, but it's pricey. If you are careful and learn what to look for there are far more good people out there than crooks. Unfortunately learning this means you may have to encounter a few bad deals.

I will say I have had FAR more good deals bought and sold on the boards and on ebay than bad.
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:15 PM   #27
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I've used eBay a lot in the past 2 years and take pride in my near flawless feedback (no negatives) and 100+ positive feedback rating. If you buy, just look for feedback, clear pics, and ask the seller questions. If the description is not clear, I would be weary about it.

As for selling, I do my best to describe the stuff I'm selling and even mention everything down to a tiny scratch. Clear pics help a lot too. Might be getting a little less money by being more descriptive but I've always had satisfied buyers and its better to do it this way than to have a buyer that is complaining or demands a refund.

As for the engine purchase, contact eBay. Keep all record of emails. They can be used against him. Remember, this is FRAUD and eBay takes this seriously!! Don't let him get away with it or he'll do it again. eBay is usually good about this sort of stuff. Don't expect Paypal to do a single thing though like others have said.
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Old 04-23-2003, 12:17 AM   #28
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I have had a totally different situation dealing with eBay. I was selling my MTX2 one time and I had a person use the Buy It Now feature..... and wh sent me the money to my Paypal account, and requested I send the car overnight to him which I did.


But come to find out, the guy that bought the car used a stolen credit card and gave me a phony address to send it to. Well now Paypal is coming back on me telling me I owe them a certain amount of money cause he cancelled the tranaction after i told him i sent it to him. And I had the process of haveing the money sent to my bank account.


So my advice to anyone.... dont use Paypal for any transaction..... cause they wont back you up on anything.



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Take the backplate off on the motor and you will see a cut on the top of it. Also there will be a chanell on the back of the connecting rod facing the front bearings. If you see those its an mr-12.

The mr-12 is basically a short rod mt-12.

There is an easier way to tell......


looking from the exhaust port end of the engine......


MT12..... left hand side has a big M with a small 12 under it
Right hand side has NOVA

MR12..... Left hand side has NOVA
Right hand side has MR 12 vertically


Well.... thats what my 2 MT12 and 2 MR12's look like

Also.... older MT12 dont have the vertical finning along the bottom of the case
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There is an easier way to tell......


looking from the exhaust port end of the engine......


MT12..... left hand side has a big M with a small 12 under it
Right hand side has NOVA

MR12..... Left hand side has NOVA
Right hand side has MR 12 vertically


Well.... thats what my 2 MT12 and 2 MR12's look like

Also.... older MT12 dont have the vertical finning along the bottom of the case
Well said! The physical appearance should be enough to figure out which is which. I don't think the sleeve and con rod will ever get swapped since one is the short stoke; the other is long.
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