R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-26-2003, 12:32 AM   #8701
Tech Master
 
alana07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: There
Posts: 1,814
Trader Rating: 52 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to alana07
Default Re: longer front end

Quote:
Originally posted by StepPins
The EVO conversion makes the v-one-rr front arms longer -- what makes up for the difference in the length of the front drivetain?
Are the dogbones longer, or are the output yokes from the diff assy longer?
here's what's longer and shorter :
longer - lower arm, dogbone
shorter - upper arm, diff output shaft, diff casing
narrower - front 1 way unit
__________________
没有最好,只有更好!!!
alana07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 12:37 AM   #8702
Tech Fanatic
 
finchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 823
Default

Thanks tl2111 I've just printed that setup out and will give it a try. I have to get something togeather the next big meet up here is the Nationals. Everbody is saying I have to go in it but if the car's playing up there is no point. But I'll try that set up and give you all some feedback on it as soon as the tracks availble again. ( 1/5 titles this weekend). Cheers guys.
finchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 01:43 AM   #8703
B4
Tech Addict
 
B4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 642
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default M1RR

Could someone please tell me Mugen part numbers to convert the RR into the M1RR.

Thankyou
B4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 03:05 AM   #8704
Tech Master
 
Sp Racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,624
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default






Zech asks...

Hi guys,

Does any one who owns a V-one S and V-one RR and knows plenty of these cars, could they pelase tell me is it advisable to convert the floating rear pod of V-one RR by putting the v-one S 'CARBON REAR SHOCK MOUNT'on the V-One RR

Does it make a whole lot difference to rear traction?


I can't understand what you're trying to find out?...
Sp Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 03:18 AM   #8705
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Singapore
Posts: 61
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Sp Racer
Zech asks...

Hi guys,

Does any one who owns a V-one S and V-one RR and knows plenty of these cars, could they pelase tell me is it advisable to convert the floating rear pod of V-one RR by putting the v-one S 'CARBON REAR SHOCK MOUNT'on the V-One RR

Does it make a whole lot difference to rear traction?


I can't understand what you're trying to find out?...
Sorry guys,

I just want to know if it will do any good if I were to remove floating rear shock pod from V-one RR and install 'REAR SHOCK MOUNT' that is use on a V-one S? i.e. better downfoce etc...
zech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 03:35 AM   #8706
Tech Elite
 
AMGRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 3,939
Default

I have tested both the floating rear and the V1S style mount and frankly did not find any huge differences. Just my experiences.
AMGRacer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 05:21 AM   #8707
Tech Master
 
tl2111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Love 1/8th
Posts: 1,561
Trader Rating: 21 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to tl2111
Default Re: M1RR

Quote:
Originally posted by B4
Could someone please tell me Mugen part numbers to convert the RR into the M1RR.

Thankyou
B4

no need M1RR any more, EVO conversion is what no need.
tl2111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 05:30 AM   #8708
Tech Elite
 
Taylor-Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Melbourne OZ
Posts: 2,066
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by InitialD
Weight transfer to the rear will occur anyways regardless if you limit the front droop. On power, the front lifts up and less front tire contacts the surface because of the limited droop. Less steering.

If you let for more front droop, when the weight transfers to the rear, the front tires will not lift up so much and will still be in contact with the surface. You still get front traction when that happens and that is why you get more steering under power.

You seem to be assuming that only a finite amount of weight is transferred to the rear irrespective of the front droop setting.

With more front droop, the front is able to lift higher under power and, thus, transfer more weight to the rear.
If you transfer more weight to the rear, by definition, you must have less weight on the front.
If you have less weight on the front you have less front grip/steering.
If you have transferred more weight to the rear, you have more rear traction.
Taylor-Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 06:06 AM   #8709
Tech Elite
 
Taylor-Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Melbourne OZ
Posts: 2,066
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by tl2111
Taylor-racing

I have being using light blue spring for the last 8 months without any trouble, and it is softer then standard black spring.
Ahhh . . yes, the light blue's are just a bit softer than the black's.
My mistake - I presumed that all Fantom springs would have been on the hard side.

Still and all, I thought hard springs were the go for Moorebank, but your recent win disproves that, I guess.
Taylor-Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 06:11 AM   #8710
Tech Elite
 
AMGRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 3,939
Default

This is theory 1.0 of mine as well Taylor. I think the EVO seems to like "softer" springs. In fact like I mentioned before the car rolls awesome thru the corners even with the softer springs.
AMGRacer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 06:40 AM   #8711
Tech Master
 
tl2111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Love 1/8th
Posts: 1,561
Trader Rating: 21 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to tl2111
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Ahhh . . yes, the light blue's are just a bit softer than the black's.
My mistake - I presumed that all Fantom springs would have been on the hard side.

Still and all, I thought hard springs were the go for Moorebank, but your recent win disproves that, I guess.
yeah Gavin that's normally how we should attack in high traction setting but the traction in moorebank nowaday is just too much even the 1/8th scale has traction roll that is very rare.

The thoery behind the soft shock and more droop setting is to let the car roll more hopefully enough to take side force away instead of lifting the wheels. I know it sounds weird but if it can stop the car on its roof then little slow corner speed is worth it.

TL
tl2111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 06:48 AM   #8712
Tech Elite
 
Taylor-Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Melbourne OZ
Posts: 2,066
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by AMGRacer
This is theory 1.0 of mine as well Taylor. I think the EVO seems to like "softer" springs. In fact like I mentioned before the car rolls awesome thru the corners even with the softer springs.
Yeah, I could never make those Red springs work like you seemed to.
I just put it down to Brendale - we have to work for our traction, here.

We were using black all round on the old R and just continued with black's on the Evo. I'm happy with that, but would like some more time with it - we've been rained out a bit lately.

Here's one for you.
On page 34 of the Evo manual, four lines from the top is listed some optional Red springs. Nearly half way down the same page is listed another Red spring, this time giving the number of coils. I'm completely lost, now.
Taylor-Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 06:53 AM   #8713
Tech Elite
 
AMGRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 3,939
Default

There are two lots of red springs.

Fantom red and V1RR red. The Fantom obviously is way harder.

Same with blues.
AMGRacer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 07:00 AM   #8714
Tech Elite
 
Taylor-Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Melbourne OZ
Posts: 2,066
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by tl2111
yeah Gavin that's normally how we should attack in high traction setting but the traction in moorebank nowaday is just too much even the 1/8th scale has traction roll that is very rare.

The thoery behind the soft shock and more droop setting is to let the car roll more hopefully enough to take side force away instead of lifting the wheels. I know it sounds weird but if it can stop the car on its roof then little slow corner speed is worth it.

TL
Yes, it sure does sound weird, but I'm certainly not going to argue with what works. I'll need to think about it though.

Maybe it's time Moorebank gave up on the VHT, eh.
I think they're the only track in Oz still using it aren't they?
Taylor-Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2003, 07:07 AM   #8715
B4
Tech Addict
 
B4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 642
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default Re: Re: M1RR

Quote:
Originally posted by tl2111
B4

no need M1RR any more, EVO conversion is what no need.
Thanks tl2111

I have the EVO kit but not the time just yet to put it together. Has anyone found a site with the full installation manual for the EVO yet not the conversion.
B4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Kyosho VoneR Roller $120 Tag R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 08-06-2003 07:22 PM
kyosho VoneR w/ nova, pipe $200 Tag R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 9 07-25-2003 03:09 AM
Kyosho VoneR Macky R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 6 07-31-2002 09:04 AM
Brand new Kyosho VoneR kit $230 Tag R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 0 10-22-2001 02:12 PM
NIB Kyosho VoneR $250 Tag R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 10-21-2001 06:39 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 05:29 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net