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Old 08-12-2003, 01:32 AM
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Yeah my laptimes were a little better (with my lap counter ) but I had a pretty ugly tire combo on for the EVO so the fast laps were few and far between

What is the major tendancy that you are trying to tune out?

Are you running the rear shocks in the position that Kyosho suggests (lower hole?)
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Old 08-12-2003, 01:37 AM
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When you say lower hole is that on the bottom arms? I think I'm just trying to get used to the car more than anything. Sometimes the car pushes on exit power but no were as much as the RR. AMGRacer try 42 all round, today there was plenty of traction left over from the weekend and this seemed like a really good combination for tires.
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Old 08-12-2003, 01:45 AM
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Sounds nice. I will try the 42s.

I had 37 Ellegi and 40 Enneti on with a 300M body and had too much steering by miles.

If you look carefully at the setup in the EVO kit it recommends some "unusual" things.

1. Rear shocks are to be 13mm long and use the large ball cups with the long spring retainer like the front shocks use. They are attached to the bottom holes in the arm, not the top holes. Unsure what this does.

2. The rear diff only uses 5K oil rather than the stiffer settings in the earlier kits.

The car carries MEGA speed thru the corners now and changes direction very nicely, but it was inconsistent because of bad tire choice

My EVO now weighs 1712g dry with only three minor changes:

- 9550 servo on throttle
- Full set of TI screws
- AAA battery pack

It is bone stock apart from the above three changes so I guess the argument about heavy weight is over
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Old 08-12-2003, 01:53 AM
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I'll try the rear shock positioning on the weekend. I know my car now weighs now 1783 grms with just the Ti shafts ( 2 speed and front counter shaft) I'm looking forward to getting it down lower. ( that's weighed with race size tires, body, transponder but no fuel. ) I think a few more hours on the car AMGRacer and you'll never want to put it away, pity I have to go back to work tommorow, ah well hoildays must come to a end.
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Old 08-12-2003, 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by finchy
Be perpared for a surprise Taylor Racing. The RR and the EVO are like chalk and cheese. I did Some more testing of the EVO today. Mugen hunting we will go, hunting we will go. PM you what setup I'm using it's alright but as I said be prepared for some setup work.
Hi finchy/AMG,

How can the Evo be so different from the RR- you say it and so does AMGracer? As long as it's better, I won't be complaining.

Be vewey vewy quiet, it's MTX season. (said in my best Elmer Fud voice)

Seriously though, a while ago AMG said he thought the RR rear end was still good, having experimented for some time with the M1RR. I have still not done the M1RR conversion - had a number of other things I wanted to play with.

Anyway, my point is that around that time we had a funny traction day at our home track - you may remember me going on about it.
The traction came up significantly during the race and after the finish I noticed that the rear tyres were coning out quite a bit. I thought at the time that the M1RR rear end might have allowed some more camber to be cranked on and eliminated the issue.
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Looking forward to that set-up, please. we won't have much time to experiment before next Sunday.
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Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Hi finchy/AMG,

How can the Evo be so different from the RR- you say it and so does AMGracer? As long as it's better, I won't be complaining.

Be vewey vewy quiet, it's MTX season. (said in my best Elmer Fud voice)

Seriously though, a while ago AMG said he thought the RR rear end was still good, having experimented for some time with the M1RR. I have still not done the M1RR conversion - had a number of other things I wanted to play with.

Anyway, my point is that around that time we had a funny traction day at our home track - you may remember me going on about it.
The traction came up significantly during the race and after the finish I noticed that the rear tyres were coning out quite a bit. I thought at the time that the M1RR rear end might have allowed some more camber to be cranked on and eliminated the issue.
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Looking forward to that set-up, please. we won't have much time to experiment before next Sunday.
the major differences between RR and EVO are the front end suspension geometry and the chassis CG.
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check your PM taylor racing
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Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Santa arrived early - he left two blue boxes with gold writing on them last night.
he left me with a slim blue box also!!!
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M1RR.... please explain
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Old 08-12-2003, 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by V-One S Racer
M1RR.... please explain
It's the use of Mugen rear uprights on back of the V-oneR.
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This car looks like it has a lower CG, and it has a shaft drive??

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/rc_model/tou...r/fw05r-e.html
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This car looks like it has a lower CG, and it has a shaft drive??
...And I'm getting one!
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Got my evo and a further note on the weight of it if you get the conversion kit chassi and top deck you will save a 18grams. The optional chassi is thicker but lighter by about 12g from 119 > 107. And the optional carbon top deck is stiffer but a further 6g lighter from 30g from the std one to 24g whichs is 20% lighter. I agree that the plastic used it a little harder but i had no trouble in threading the screws whatsoever. I also had a little problem with the metal brace like thing that goes across the two lower front hinge pins for the arms i had to open the hole .5mm.

More info as it comes to hand Chris

PS Luis i'll show u the manual of the 2spd on Sunday if ur there.
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What screwdriver did you use??
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can we see some picks of the new car???
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