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Old 08-07-2003, 09:14 AM   #8356
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manti, nice !

i will receive mine soon .... no more low CG tank from K-Factory
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Old 08-07-2003, 09:26 AM   #8358
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manti, nice !

i will receive mine soon .... no more low CG tank from K-Factory
the k factory low CG fuel tank doesnt work very well indeed.
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Old 08-07-2003, 03:55 PM   #8359
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Some comments on the kit:

- Plastic is HARD. I had to grease the screws to get them in! It seems the material is similar to the associated "graphite" parts.
- Dry weight of the car BONE stock with everything minus fuel is 1806 grams. Legal IFMAR weight is 1725 so we are 81 grams over weight bone stock. Remember that that is using a AA 5 cell pack at 97grams. The AAA small packs are around 50 grams so there is 50 grams saving right there
- Some hand fitting required which I hate. The steering linkage was fiddly and you have to cut the underside of the floating mount since the top of the camber links hit under compression (this is wierd since I dont remember this happening with my RR)
- Rear arms are different. It seems that they have some material removed from the insides.
- The stickers which come with the car don't say EVO!! That sucks right there.
- Lola and sedan is accomodated.
- No body!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF?
- 35 shore tires front and rear are supplied. Who uses 35 shore?
- The kit setup has a ride height of 6mm front and 6.5mm rear. Seems too high to me!
- My drivetrain is tight from the get go due to the belts, needs some breakin.
- The steering rack runs on bushings not bearings!!
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Old 08-07-2003, 04:26 PM   #8360
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They look so nice... I can't wait to get mine (2 - 3 months away but still ) !

So AMG, I take it you get all the mounts and bumper etc. for using both a Sedan and Lola body?
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Old 08-07-2003, 04:36 PM   #8361
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They look so nice... I can't wait to get mine (2 - 3 months away but still ) !

So AMG, I take it you get all the mounts and bumper etc. for using both a Sedan and Lola body?
Yes you get a foam bumper style front and a lola style flat front.
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Old 08-07-2003, 04:58 PM   #8362
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6 hours . . . sheesh . . . fast.
At that rate the throttle linkage should take you about .026573 seconds to finish - plenty of time to get in a couple of laps practice for the titles this weekend, yeah.

BTW, looks good.
Hope we have ours before the weekend - a slim hope.
Yeah I was surprised how fast it went together. I was not rushing it really, just worked steady. I spent 2 hours on the shocks and the top deck/wiring alone

The throttle linkage is annoying the throtle side of the servo needs to be 8-10mm long and the brake side 18-20mm long so you have to cut up a servo horn etc.
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Old 08-07-2003, 06:13 PM   #8363
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Originally posted by AMGRacer
Some comments on the kit:

- Plastic is HARD. I had to grease the screws to get them in! It seems the material is similar to the associated "graphite" parts.
- Dry weight of the car BONE stock with everything minus fuel is 1806 grams. Legal IFMAR weight is 1725 so we are 81 grams over weight bone stock. Remember that that is using a AA 5 cell pack at 97grams. The AAA small packs are around 50 grams so there is 50 grams saving right there
- Some hand fitting required which I hate. The steering linkage was fiddly and you have to cut the underside of the floating mount since the top of the camber links hit under compression (this is wierd since I dont remember this happening with my RR)
- Rear arms are different. It seems that they have some material removed from the insides.
- The stickers which come with the car don't say EVO!! That sucks right there.
- Lola and sedan is accomodated.
- No body!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF?
- 35 shore tires front and rear are supplied. Who uses 35 shore?
- The kit setup has a ride height of 6mm front and 6.5mm rear. Seems too high to me!
- My drivetrain is tight from the get go due to the belts, needs some breakin.
- The steering rack runs on bushings not bearings!!
AMG

Do you mind to post the picture of the rear arms??
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Old 08-07-2003, 06:24 PM   #8364
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AMG

Do you mind to post the picture of the rear arms??
I can try but my camera sucks for close up work. I will describe it for now and try some pics tonight.

The arms are exactly the same in terms of their overall size and dimensions. The inner bracing has a relief cut out of it which looks to me to be designed so that it will clear the diff outdrive/dogbone on serious upwards compression. However when I play with the arms they miss these areas by miles. Wierd.

The new arms are VZ004B.
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Old 08-07-2003, 06:27 PM   #8365
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Hahaha I just realised how dumb my car looks sitting on my stove Tire warmers for foam tires!!!!!

It it an impressive looking thing in the flesh even bone stock as it is. Very low looking (even the tank) and with the body on only the handle and tank is visible thru the windows!!
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Old 08-07-2003, 06:32 PM   #8366
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Bloody kyosho,i help them with all that R&D and all they give me in return is my name in gold on there boxes!!!

AMG,how was the assembly and parts fit etc?

No,close up pics?
Assembly was very very quick for me, but I am a Kyosho "expert" now and I can build them in my sleep

Parts fit is good as is usual for Kyosho.

Negative things:

- Steering arm linkage is fiddly (need to cut two ball ends down by 3mm).
- The steering pivots on bushings. I mean come on.
- The top camber links now hit the floating mount under full suspension compression!! You have to cut some reliefs into the mounts according to the instructions. I dont remember this from the V1RR?????
- The plastic is now so damn hard I could not physically force some screws in without greasing them!!
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Originally posted by AMGRacer
Some comments on the kit:

- Plastic is HARD. I had to grease the screws to get them in! It seems the material is similar to the associated "graphite" parts.
- Dry weight of the car BONE stock with everything minus fuel is 1806 grams. Legal IFMAR weight is 1725 so we are 81 grams over weight bone stock. Remember that that is using a AA 5 cell pack at 97grams. The AAA small packs are around 50 grams so there is 50 grams saving right there
- Some hand fitting required which I hate. The steering linkage was fiddly and you have to cut the underside of the floating mount since the top of the camber links hit under compression (this is wierd since I dont remember this happening with my RR)
- Rear arms are different. It seems that they have some material removed from the insides.
- The stickers which come with the car don't say EVO!! That sucks right there.
- Lola and sedan is accomodated.
- No body!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF?
- 35 shore tires front and rear are supplied. Who uses 35 shore?
- The kit setup has a ride height of 6mm front and 6.5mm rear. Seems too high to me!
- My drivetrain is tight from the get go due to the belts, needs some breakin.
- The steering rack runs on bushings not bearings!!
kyosho has used new material not only front suspension part? the old rear end has the new material as well?

I use 35 shore, send them to me please !!
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Assembly was very very quick for me, but I am a Kyosho "expert" now and I can build them in my sleep

Parts fit is good as is usual for Kyosho.

Negative things:

- Steering arm linkage is fiddly (need to cut two ball ends down by 3mm).
- The steering pivots on bushings. I mean come on.
- The top camber links now hit the floating mount under full suspension compression!! You have to cut some reliefs into the mounts according to the instructions. I dont remember this from the V1RR?????
- The plastic is now so damn hard I could not physically force some screws in without greasing them!!
your next challenge is to "win" a race in your sleep !
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Old 08-07-2003, 08:30 PM   #8369
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- The steering rack runs on bushings not bearings!!
Newbie here at this forum...and waiting for my Evo to come. Do you happen to know the size of that bushing? Many Thanks!
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Old 08-07-2003, 08:31 PM   #8370
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kyosho has used new material not only front suspension part? the old rear end has the new material as well?

I use 35 shore, send them to me please !!
Yep I could not get the screws into the rear bulkheads!! Had to use grease............

I will send you the 35........................
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