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Old 07-14-2003, 12:58 AM   #8086
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Not real sure on that one I've never run the car with the mugen clutch. AMGRacer is the one to ask. They say the Mugen one is more effeicent, but I've found the Kyosho clutch pretty good as long as you the heavy spring and red shoe out of the fantom. The other thing is you can really screw down on the spring ( 2.0 mm ^ ) to get that real punch effect out of the corners.
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Old 07-14-2003, 12:59 AM   #8087
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What are the major differences between the Kyosho clutch unit Vs Mugen clutch unit ?
Michael since when u become interest on V1R??? anyway 4D is 4 fly weight, will be exactly the same like Mugen clutch now, 3D is 3 fly weight and use shims inside and outside to adjust throw.

Rick has test the 4D is very similar to mugen.
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Old 07-14-2003, 01:01 AM   #8088
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So you're saying that Rick Bartolozzi has already be testing bits and peices of the Evo.
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Lets hope the specs posted on the Kyosho site arn't true....

V-One RR EVOLUTION Total Weight Approx. 1900g

I checked the weight of the V-One RR GT for comparison, and this was Total Weight approx. 1,700g

So according to Kyosho, the new car is considerable heavier?
I've expect EVO is close to this weight, The standard V1R that I have without been into Jenny Craig diet program is about 1830g and the EVO with few more bits in it I'm sure it close to 1900g but the conversion Kit comes with Shimo chassis and Carbon fibre top deck(did not come with the EVO car kit though) It should be around 1790g.
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Michael since when u become interest on V1R??? anyway 4D is 4 fly weight, will be exactly the same like Mugen clutch now, 3D is 3 fly weight and use shims inside and outside to adjust throw.

Rick has test the 4D is very similar to mugen.
Just keeping my options open Tommy for the come back - also want to steal your setups

What about the flywheel, I heard the old clutch came with a non-alloy flywheel - maybe I was hearing things
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Old 07-14-2003, 01:13 AM   #8091
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I've expect EVO is close to this weight, The standard V1R that I have without been into Jenny Craig diet program is about 1830g and the EVO with few more bits in it I'm sure it close to 1900g but the conversion Kit comes with Shimo chassis and Carbon fibre top deck(did not come with the EVO car kit though) It should be around 1790g.
Wow - 1900g is quiet heavy stock!
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Old 07-14-2003, 01:24 AM   #8092
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Just keeping my options open Tommy for the come back - also want to steal your setups

What about the flywheel, I heard the old clutch came with a non-alloy flywheel - maybe I was hearing things
it is alloy, only the diameter is bigger then the new mugen flywheel but smaller then the orginal mugen flywheel. one things bad about mugen and kyosho flywheel is their anodise it came off about 2 hard racing meeting and has lost their smoothest.
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Old 07-14-2003, 01:29 AM   #8093
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So you're saying that Rick Bartolozzi has already be testing bits and peices of the Evo.
No, finchy. Rick hasn't test the EVO yet. Infact i don't think he has order it. He is concentrate on 1/8th.
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Old 07-14-2003, 01:45 AM   #8094
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The 4D clutch is the 3D clutch with the extra flyweight added. The Mugen clutch is better mainly due to the poor clutchshoe material and weak spring on the standard V1RR clutch. Hope the EVO has the red pad and the stiff spring then they are just as good.

My V1RR GT WITH painted body, full size foam tires, full load of fuel, engine and all elecrtonics plus personal transponder runs in at 1825 grams. I dont have that much lightening stuff on it.

The Mugen guys are claiming 1700 grams for their cars, but I wonder if it includes body and fuel and tires. These things alone weigh 150 grams on average making my car around the 1700 mark naked.
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I have been using a 4D clutch on my V1RR in the last 2 years !
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The 4D clutch is the 3D clutch with the extra flyweight added. The Mugen clutch is better mainly due to the poor clutchshoe material and weak spring on the standard V1RR clutch. Hope the EVO has the red pad and the stiff spring then they are just as good.

My V1RR GT WITH painted body, full size foam tires, full load of fuel, engine and all elecrtonics plus personal transponder runs in at 1825 grams. I dont have that much lightening stuff on it.

The Mugen guys are claiming 1700 grams for their cars, but I wonder if it includes body and fuel and tires. These things alone weigh 150 grams on average making my car around the 1700 mark naked.
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it is true the standard MTX3 ready to race without fuel is around 1750g or less, My V1RR with diet program around 1710g depend on what servo that I use servo alone can upto 40g difference.
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it is true the standard MTX3 ready to race without fuel is around 1750g or less, My V1RR with diet program around 1710g depend on what servo that I use servo alone can upto 40g difference.
Wow thats light.

What servo are you using that is saving you 40 grams??
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Wow thats light.

What servo are you using that is saving you 40 grams??
Tommy is such a perfectionist, he drills out the gears in his servos to save weight
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Old 07-14-2003, 04:20 AM   #8099
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Taylor Racing how did you go on the weekend. 5th in the final is all I could acheive this meet. Driving has gone to CRAP.
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Wow thats light.

What servo are you using that is saving you 40 grams??
the futaba s9550 can save 20g to any KO Fet with metal gear, or about 10 on pastic gear.
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