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Old 10-01-2001, 09:09 PM   #136
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How does the LSD affect the handling? Mine is still in the package.
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How does the LSD affect the handling? Mine is still in the package.
increase rear end stability
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Has anyone tried to put the LSD gears in the front diff case? Has anyone tried running the LSD in both the front and rear diff cases?
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a cheaper way of having a LSD diff in the rear is putting 100k oil in the rear. it should lock the rear enough to give you that effect.
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a cheaper way of having a LSD diff in the rear is putting 100k oil in the rear. it should lock the rear enough to give you that effect.
If it works then it is not necessary to make an LSD !
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If it works then it is not necessary to make an LSD !
true and very true, but sometimes some manufacturor will invent something that will serve the same purpose as the old unit and they just want to make some money that's all!
But in this case you are very right about that!
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If it works then it is not necessary to make an LSD !
Yes. I agree with both gentlemen over here. At times manufacturers do come out with something similiar to the older product to remain competitive in this market. But I must really emphasise that the LSD is something quite different from what the maufacturers have been producing. Bottomline, we're trying to emulate the 1:1 scale car as close as possible, in terms if design and handling...The only difference is that we're taking out the danger of driving it and putting our lives at risk...

Now back to the LSD...the one we have on our 1:10 cars now are the clutch type LSD. It limits the slip we have when we power our cars round corners. Have u ever seen one of the wheels lifting and spins much faster than the other? This is what happens when u have a normal diff...but it does not happen to the LSD...
Yes, by using a higher wt silicon oil might just be similiar, but there would still be substaintial losses in the power transmission. That's why the newer versions of the Subaru WRX are fitted with this LSD thingy...but of course, theirs are not as simple...but the general idea is the same...

Try it on your cars and tell us about the significant differences...

Happy racing...

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For the benefit for those who have not seen the LSD by kawahara, here are some pics...





These images are directly from the kawahara website...
Kyosho has the LSD too, but I do not have the images available...

Happy racing...
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Is the LSD available in California, either Kyoso or Kawahara units. If anyone knows please let me know. I live in southern California.
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a cheaper way of having a LSD diff in the rear is putting 100k oil in the rear. it should lock the rear enough to give you that effect.
LSD gives variable diff locking rate. More torque gives more locking rate.

If you put 100K diff oil in the diff, you only have a consistant 100K locking rate diff.
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For the benefit for those who have not seen the LSD by kawahara, here are some pics...





These images are directly from the kawahara website...
Kyosho has the LSD too, but I do not have the images available...

Happy racing...
actually kyosho came out with two optional diff.

one is adjustable diff which let you adjust the diff action up to your preference and driving style. It comes with a blue color metal diff case and the necessary hardward for doing the adjusting work. You need to put in your diff gear inside.

the other one is LSD. You need to use the original diff case and outdrive. It only comes with very high quality carbide diff gears.
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I understand how the kawahara LSD works, but I can't figure out how the Kyosho LSD works.
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I understand how the kawahara LSD works, but I can't figure out how the Kyosho LSD works.
The floating blocks inside the diff will lock up the gears under heavy spin
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actually kyosho came out with two optional diff.

one is adjustable diff which let you adjust the diff action up to your preference and driving style. It comes with a blue color metal diff case and the necessary hardward for doing the adjusting work. You need to put in your diff gear inside.

the other one is LSD. You need to use the original diff case and outdrive. It only comes with very high quality carbide diff gears.
Wow! Carbide diff gears! That's something I didn't know... that's the same material we used for our tooling!! So anyone can anticipate when are we moving on to the more exotic materials such as titanium?! Haha.... Thanks anyway for the information...

By the way, if they have used carbide gears, ain't it gona be more brittle? A little chip in the bevel's gona wreck up the whole gear system in no time! Any idea of they have carbonised the gears as well?

Anyone with any pics of the adjustable diff please share it, cos I don't think we have this stuff back here!

Happy racing...
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mauler,

the instruction manual you quoted below is for MTX2. the Kawaraha diff for V1R doesnt come with a derlin pulley and you need to adapt the stock pulley and of cuz the whole set diff for V1R will be cheaper.
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