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Old 02-02-2002, 08:02 PM   #1156
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well, that great but....

has anyone tried the stiff spring?
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well, that great but....

has anyone tried the stiff spring?
i am using the grey shoes n lightened weight. it is great. great acceleration. i might try on the heavy spring later on.
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Old 02-02-2002, 08:07 PM   #1158
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thanks. i have a hard time telling the difference between the grey black and this other brownish one. do you have part numbers for what you use?
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Old 02-02-2002, 08:17 PM   #1159
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thanks. i have a hard time telling the difference between the grey black and this other brownish one. do you have part numbers for what you use?
i dont !!
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Old 02-03-2002, 06:30 AM   #1160
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well, that great but....

has anyone tried the stiff spring?
I've run the stiffer spring for a while with my old Axial clutch.

I now run the stock spring on the new pro, with both the Gray clutch shoe (H0765) and lightweight flys (H0766). This combo gives more then enough punch. Using the stiffer spring with the above combo would make the clutch engage way too hard and possible make handling worse.

The lightweight flyweights will make the clutch engage/disengage slightly quicker and the gray shoes are softer then the stock shoes which will allow you to set the clutch higher and will slip alot less then the standard shoe.

Just don't forget that adding/removing shims will also make the clutch engage harder/softer and not enough shims will result in early thrust bearing failure.


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I've run the stiffer spring for a while with my old Axial clutch.

I now run the stock spring on the new pro, with both the Gray clutch shoe (H0765) and lightweight flys (H0766). This combo gives more then enough punch. Using the stiffer spring with the above combo would make the clutch engage way too hard and possible make handling worse.
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That is what I think.
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Old 02-03-2002, 09:17 PM   #1162
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Had a great run today at Crystal Park! Here is my setting for today:

Front:
Camber: 2 degree
Toe out: 1 1/2 degree
Caster: 8 degree
Ride Height: 4 1/2mm
Spring: Mugen Grey(1.8)
Shock Piston: 2 holes
Shock Oil: 60wt
Front Sway Bar: Softest setting (flat)

Rear:
Camber: 2 1/2 degree
Toe In: 2 degree
Ride Height: 5 1/2mm
Spring: Mugen Light Blue(1.7)
Shock Piston: 2 holes
Shock Oil: 60wt
Rear Sway Bar: Softest setting

Tires: 26mm Ellegi 40sh front
32mm 45sh Yokomo L compound (L32H)

Engine: RB X12T 5 ports, RB exhaust manifold, X12 pipe.
Front Oneway, Rear Negative Diff, Tech mid oneway.
Shell: HPI Mercedes CLK GTR.

Man, with this set up the car handles like it's on rail, fast sweeper, tight corners, it is just perfect!
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AH10, what diff oils were you using?

And what is that "Tech Mid" oneway?

Also, are you still using that parallel rear camber link set-up? If not, what positions are you using now?

Thanks!

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That is what I think.
It works out that this was the combination that I was running on my RS this weekend; Kawa small flywheel, hard spring, lightened weights, and grey clutch shoes (didn't even know I had these). Anyway... had difficulty getting a smooth engagement with 0.5mm on the spring and 0.4mm on the bell housing.... will be trying 'almost flush' on the spring and 0.4mm on bell housing next week.... maybe!!
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And what is that "Tech Mid" oneway?
A mid one way bearing/pulley for the end of the front long belt made by Tech Racing!!! Works very well!!!
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A mid one way bearing/pulley for the end of the front long belt made by Tech Racing!!! Works very well!!!
Ok, so what's the purpose of it? If you've got a one-way front diff, how does putting in a one way center "diff" make things better? To me, it seems like it make the car impossible to slow down.
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When you let go on the gas with just a front one-way; all the friction on the three belts will be acting on the rear axle to brake it. With the centre or mid one way you lose the friction on the front belt leaving less friction to slow down the rear/car! This will lead to slightly faster entry speed into the corner and less tendancy for the back end to step out. The effect is similar to mid one ways on EP but the effect is less drastic because you do not have motor braking with GP.
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I do not know the exact effect of just a front one way on GP because I have always had full time 4WD or dual one ways on GP. What I have put below is based on my EP experience!
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It works out that this was the combination that I was running on my RS this weekend; Kawa small flywheel, hard spring, lightened weights, and grey clutch shoes (didn't even know I had these). Anyway... had difficulty getting a smooth engagement with 0.5mm on the spring and 0.4mm on the bell housing.... will be trying 'almost flush' on the spring and 0.4mm on bell housing next week.... maybe!!
if you want smooth engagement, you need the stock shoe. It will reduce the punch that the grey shoe provides.
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if you want smooth engagement, you need the stock shoe. It will reduce the punch that the grey shoe provides.
I didn't even realise it was the grey shoes I bought until you mentioned it at PYC and I compared the two when I got home!!!!
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