R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-21-2002, 04:25 AM   #2131
Tech Elite
 
Michael_T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 4,083
Trader Rating: 48 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Michael_T
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Sydewynder


I'm thinking about it. Don't know why I got it since there is really no permanent place big enough to run it. Should've gotten a 10th scale on-road.

It's still in the box/case, seal unbroken.
You can always come down here to our track if you want Fokkie

http://members.optushome.com.au/muge...h%20scale.mpeg
__________________
Shepherd RC | Brilliant RC | Ielasi Tuned Novarossi | Xtreme Aerodynamics | Matrix |

BlueRC | www.bluerc.net
Michael_T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 07:35 AM   #2132
Tech Elite
 
Michael_T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 4,083
Trader Rating: 48 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Michael_T
Default

By the way, intresting article on Kawahara and Pengiun goodies for the MTX-2 here : http://www.rcnitro.com/rn/articles/mugenmtx.asp
__________________
Shepherd RC | Brilliant RC | Ielasi Tuned Novarossi | Xtreme Aerodynamics | Matrix |

BlueRC | www.bluerc.net
Michael_T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 09:59 AM   #2133
Tech Master
 
Ah10's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Pasadena/Southern California
Posts: 1,370
Send a message via ICQ to Ah10 Send a message via AIM to Ah10 Send a message via Yahoo to Ah10
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Pepe
Ah10, sydewinder, and all the others, thanks for your ideas about the leaking diff.

Ah10, what are you isung in the rear diff? that is not the stock one, isn't it? how do you like it?


Not a problem at all!

Oh I am using Kawahara Negative Diff, it has regular diff bevel gears in there on one side of the housing and there are 2 shoe type clutch on the other side of the housing so when it is in low speed it has full diff action and when speed picks up the concentric force expend the clutch inside the diff housing and it grabs the housing then it becomes solid axle!

So it is kind if having the best of both world into one unit!

I love this unit!
Ah10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 10:12 AM   #2134
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Tonteg, Wales, UK
Posts: 43
Post caster change

Phsyco, thanks for the info on the air filter.

Nova racer, hi in one of your last posts you suggest decreasing the caster to stop the rear unloading, can you explain as I think my understanding of caster change might be wrong. I thought that increasing (more spacers in front of upper wishbone would decrease turn-in & increase centre & out of corner steering) am I wrong the reason Iím asking the question is that Iím running maximum caster on my X-ray and having the same problem with the back end feeling very loose. Don't whant to make the same mistake with the MTX2
Thanks in advance
Raw40.

Last edited by Raw40; 06-21-2002 at 10:14 AM.
Raw40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 11:45 AM   #2135
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,583
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Manticore


yepyep, you should get a V1RR !

No a 10th onroad like Impact. I won't get a V1RR and you know why.

Last edited by Sydewynder; 06-21-2002 at 11:47 AM.
Sydewynder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 11:46 AM   #2136
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,583
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Novarossi


You can always come down here to our track if you want Fokkie

http://members.optushome.com.au/muge...h%20scale.mpeg
Nope them Aussies are too fast Mikey.
Sydewynder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 11:48 AM   #2137
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,583
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Ah10



Not a problem at all!

Oh I am using Kawahara Negative Diff, it has regular diff bevel gears in there on one side of the housing and there are 2 shoe type clutch on the other side of the housing so when it is in low speed it has full diff action and when speed picks up the concentric force expend the clutch inside the diff housing and it grabs the housing then it becomes solid axle!

So it is kind if having the best of both world into one unit!

I love this unit!

I hate the negative diff.
Sydewynder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 11:54 AM   #2138
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,583
Default Re: please help with my setup

Quote:
Originally posted by nosyajg
i'm having trouble with setting up my mtx-2...this is NOT the prospec version...it's too loose, and unstable at high speed...at slower speeds its okay...but when moving fast, the car tends to spin out with very little steering input...the dual rate on my transmitter is set to 40, and it still is too "squirrely" at high speeds

this is my current setup:

sorex 36r tires with hpi red inserts on 26mm wheels front/rear
2 degrees toe in front and rear
2 degrees camber all around
max caster (all spacers to the front)
60 wt oil all around
front shocks in most upright position
rear shocks in most laid down position
mugen purple springs in front
mugen blue springs in rear
no front or rear sway bar
5mm ride height front and rear
10,000 diff oil in front
5,000 diff oil in rear
hpi corvette body with rear wing

i also tried the following with the above setup:
associated white springs (40 lbs/inch) in front
associated green springs (12 lbs/inch) in rear

the associated springs helped a little, but it didnt make the car push...it still is too floaty and unstable at high speed...i would GREATLY appreciate any and all feedback...if your car pushes, please give me your setup thanx in advance!!!

Dial down the EXP or Exponential on your radio -10 to -20% if you can. Not the same as Dual Rate.

Use Sorex 28R in the back. In general use softer rears.

Run a thicker diff oil in the front say 30,000wt.

2 degrees toe in front? Negative or positive? You don't want positive for your condition. Try 0.
Sydewynder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 12:35 PM   #2139
Tech Master
 
Ah10's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Pasadena/Southern California
Posts: 1,370
Send a message via ICQ to Ah10 Send a message via AIM to Ah10 Send a message via Yahoo to Ah10
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Sydewynder



I hate the negative diff.
How come??
Ah10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 02:03 PM   #2140
Tech Elite
 
stefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Posts: 3,273
Send a message via AIM to stefan
Default I hate it too..

I just took my negative diff out last weekend, for the last time.

It keeps locking up on me.

I built it correctly, just left the white plastic shims out like everybody else and after a while it startet locking up.
Everybody told me to get new bevel gears, so I did. Rebuilt the sucker, used Ofna green diff grease and it felt super smooth.
Put it in the car and in the 2nd heat it started to lock up again.

Any advice?

Btw, I'm talking about the diff side, not the clutchj
stefan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 02:32 PM   #2141
Tech Master
 
Ah10's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Pasadena/Southern California
Posts: 1,370
Send a message via ICQ to Ah10 Send a message via AIM to Ah10 Send a message via Yahoo to Ah10
Default Re: I hate it too..

Quote:
Originally posted by stefan
I just took my negative diff out last weekend, for the last time.

It keeps locking up on me.

I built it correctly, just left the white plastic shims out like everybody else and after a while it startet locking up.
Everybody told me to get new bevel gears, so I did. Rebuilt the sucker, used Ofna green diff grease and it felt super smooth.
Put it in the car and in the 2nd heat it started to lock up again.

Any advice?

Btw, I'm talking about the diff side, not the clutchj
you know what I suspect it is the little shaft that holds the bevel gears, you need to use a dremel to kind of round both end a little bit so it will slide in smoothly, other wise it will get stuck in the housing and putting too much stress on the bevel gears(somehow those bevel gears need to float a little bit inside the housing!
Ah10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 03:38 PM   #2142
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 927
Send a message via ICQ to Cartman
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by psycho
Raw40

The oil on the air filter is what the dirt clings to, so it is very important. Just use some oil that will wash out with soap. I usually use shock oil since I have tons. That's what Tamiya shock oil is good for! It's no good in shocks!

NO NO NO bin the oil and buy some proper stuff get some motocross air oil its far better.
__________________
Dremel UK - Schumacher Racing - Vapextech UK - MBModels UK - MRT
Cartman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 03:44 PM   #2143
Tech Regular
 
nova racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ypsilanti MI
Posts: 292
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Cartman
i was thinking the same thing that silicone would smoke a glow plug in a short time and the fact that it is not sticky another. i use the AE filter oil that is some stickey stuff


NO NO NO bin the oil and buy some proper stuff get some motocross air oil its far better.
nova racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 03:59 PM   #2144
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 927
Send a message via ICQ to Cartman
Default

also with the bike oil its cheap to the amount you get and it lasts for ages
__________________
Dremel UK - Schumacher Racing - Vapextech UK - MBModels UK - MRT

Last edited by Cartman; 06-21-2002 at 04:14 PM.
Cartman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2002, 04:10 PM   #2145
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Richmond, Va
Posts: 679
Default

Interesting you guys are having problems with the negative diff. I hadn't thought about it because I haven't had any problems, BUT I smoothed out the edges of my bevel gears before I put them in. I had problems with the regular diffs locking because of that, and got in the habit of smoothing them out anyway.
tekrsq is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MUGEN MBX5R/MUGEN MBX5T PROSPEC/TRAXXAS RACE REVO Jason Halvorson R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 14 01-12-2008 10:32 AM
Mugen 5T Chassis, Mugen 46 Tooth Pinion, Associated Ride Height Gauge bretzkej R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 1 08-19-2007 06:31 PM
USA's Most Wanted FOR SALE Mugen MBX5R,Losi 8 comp, and Mugen MBX5T Prospec Truggy nobike R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 69 04-28-2007 07:45 PM
Another MTX3 prospec w lots of parts and an optional Mugen X12 w Mugen pipe Scott Fisher R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 11 11-21-2005 05:45 PM
drake xxx nt and mugen mst-1+extras......Looking for a kanai 2 or maybe mugen buggy [email protected] R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 06-30-2003 09:31 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 09:32 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net