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Old 06-01-2007, 03:51 AM   #16
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Hi guys and ASW....u r certainly right but what got me confused (i think ) is the way the kyosho manual indicates the clutch setup (if i'm not mistaken) by adding shims outside the thrust bearing only...whereas no shims is required inside the internal bearing...so when u push the bell inside it will certainly touches the clutch shoe, meaning like there is no endplay setting with kyosho's setups...right? when the motor is running the spinning flywheel will create a minimal force so the clutch bell wouldn't rub againts the shoes even without placing shims inside. there is no problem arising from such method. i have done it bothh ways and they work perfectly....not really a problem, just to get a clearer picture.. thanks
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Hi guys and ASW....u r certainly right but what got me confused (i think ) is the way the kyosho manual indicates the clutch setup (if i'm not mistaken) by adding shims outside the thrust bearing only...whereas no shims is required inside the internal bearing...so when u push the bell inside it will certainly touches the clutch shoe, meaning like there is no endplay setting with kyosho's setups...right? when the motor is running the spinning flywheel will create a minimal force so the clutch bell wouldn't rub againts the shoes even without placing shims inside. there is no problem arising from such method. i have done it bothh ways and they work perfectly....not really a problem, just to get a clearer picture.. thanks
The original RRR and RRR WCE manuals did not cover setting endplay. I consider it a major oversight. The Evo manual has something, but it is grossly inadequate.
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Hi guys and ASW....u r certainly right but what got me confused (i think ) is the way the kyosho manual indicates the clutch setup (if i'm not mistaken) by adding shims outside the thrust bearing only...whereas no shims is required inside the internal bearing...so when u push the bell inside it will certainly touches the clutch shoe, meaning like there is no endplay setting with kyosho's setups...right? when the motor is running the spinning flywheel will create a minimal force so the clutch bell wouldn't rub againts the shoes even without placing shims inside. there is no problem arising from such method. i have done it bothh ways and they work perfectly....not really a problem, just to get a clearer picture.. thanks
same with MTX4 manual.....
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With the inner bearing installed you dont want too much fore and aft movement.This is the end play.Shim behind the inner clutch bearing to get as little play(.1mm) as possible.I usually add a shim at a time till the clutch bell feels resistance and then remove a shim, preferably a thin .2mm or .3mm shim.
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Hi guys and ASW....u r certainly right but what got me confused (i think ) is the way the kyosho manual indicates the clutch setup (if i'm not mistaken) by adding shims outside the thrust bearing only...whereas no shims is required inside the internal bearing...so when u push the bell inside it will certainly touches the clutch shoe, meaning like there is no endplay setting with kyosho's setups...right? when the motor is running the spinning flywheel will create a minimal force so the clutch bell wouldn't rub againts the shoes even without placing shims inside. there is no problem arising from such method. i have done it bothh ways and they work perfectly....not really a problem, just to get a clearer picture.. thanks
If you don't shim before inner bearing you will have a huge end-play setting something like 0.5mm of bell movement along engine shaft. Pick up a copy of Evo manual, now it explains how to set this
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With the inner bearing installed you dont want too much fore and aft movement.This is the end play. Shim behind the inner clutch bearing to get as little play(.1mm) as possible.I usually add a shim at a time till the clutch bell feels resistance and then remove a shim, preferably a thin .2mm or .3mm shim.
Don't forget to say this setup for G4S clutch bro
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Yes on my G4S and my Serpent Impulse Pro .
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