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Old 05-26-2007, 09:49 PM   #61
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Still got a good amount left, only because I pre-ordered a huge quantity. but yes they are going fast.
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:18 AM   #62
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so has any on tried it yet? how dose it feel
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:02 AM   #63
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This body will work well in low wind conditions!
I think it will flip if you use this in high wind conditions!
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:18 AM   #64
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our pre- order starts 5 june for the new body.
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Old 05-29-2007, 03:12 AM   #65
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Default Wing angle

I thought the wing angle for a 1/8th was only 45deg, that as per the IFMAR rule. The wing looks near vertical. Does Roar have a ruling on this angle?
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:01 PM   #66
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Default Wing Angle ??

When building the pattern for the Shadow I made a few phone calls to clarify exactly "how" the 45 degree angle was measured. I was told (by those within ROAR tech) that when a straight-edge is placed at the lower (leading) edge of the wing/spoiler/rear kick-up and laid back to touch the back/top edge of the wing/spoiler/kick-up - that this determines the proper angle. When the Protoform Shadow is measured in this way it is well within the allowable 45 degrees. The Shadow spoiler/kick-up has a continuous curvature in its profile from the leading edge to the trailing edge.
Of all the sample "brand x" bodies I've purchased in recent years very few have stayed within the allowable 45 degree angle - and these bodies were all considered EFRA, ROAR, and/or IFMAR approved. They were not blatantly too steep, but were definitely a few degrees beyond the 45 degree tolerance.

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Top job with the body it look great
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:29 AM   #68
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Thanks for clarifying the wing angle Dale Epp. It's good to hear from the people that designed the Shadow. This will clear a few things up before our State Titles on the weekend.

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The ROAR rule book does not require a 45 deg. maximum angle. It only details what the spoiler chord length and width should measure. ( See page 65 Section 9.4.8 in ROAR Rules)

IFMAR probably maintains the 45 deg. rule so the mfgrs follow that for their body molds. Am I correct Dale??
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fossil;
I believe you're correct about ROAR vs. IFMAR wing angle rule. The maximum distance from the leading edge of the kick-up to the trailing edge is 77mm.
I've been travelling for the last 9 days (Reedy Race of Champions etc in CA) so I haven't checked with my drivers as to the testing/racing with the Shadow.
However I was just checking the results of the "30th Annual Texas Biggie" and noticed something that I'm feeling rather encouraged by. Ron Atomic qualified fourth and finished fourth using the Protoform Shadow body - against a very tough 1/8th scale crowd with many great racers. I gotta call him in the morning for the lowdown.

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Old 06-05-2007, 07:55 PM   #73
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Default fit check on serpent 960

i was test fitting on a 960 and it looks like the brake rod has enough clearance for the upright throttle servo setup but not with the laydown option. i haven't switched to an upright servo installation yet to verify it, but i think it will clear.

has anyone tried to mount this body on a 960? what throttle servo arrangement?
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:27 PM   #74
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any pics on those how already had it? i wanna see it with some paint scheme.
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Hmmm I wan't one..but no one has any in stock
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