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Old 05-30-2007, 04:27 AM   #46
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BTW... Team Magic is looking for product reviewers. Maybe you guys can get lucky and test a G4+ for free.

http://www.teammagic.com.tw/en/newsf...25170609-39589
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With all these special items on the G4+ is seems that this car will mostly be for collectors for display rather than racing action as these special logo'ed parts would be tough to replace.
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New G4+ Chassis
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razzor ~ From the spec that you posted above, have you already detailed what's new, what's an existing option part and what is already on the G4S? Would be good to start putting together a parts list so that those that already have a G4S can upgrade to the G4+.
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hi ,is anyone heard the price of the g4+?????????????????
Its a limited edition with lots of features so don't expect the price to be cheaper than the G4S.
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With all these special items on the G4+ is seems that this car will mostly be for collectors for display rather than racing action as these special logo'ed parts would be tough to replace.
I was told by TM that they WILL be selling parts for the G4+.
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razzor ~ From the spec that you posted above, have you already detailed what's new, what's an existing option part and what is already on the G4S? Would be good to start putting together a parts list so that those that already have a G4S can upgrade to the G4+.
I have a list of all the parts for the G4+
Guys can cross reference with G4S parts list.
Note though that the + will have new Kfactory option parts as std. ie: UFO2 clutch ,rear stabilizer kit, and lots more .........
Dont see it being a cheap kit but then again i dont think any kit has this much features and hop ups included.

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111003 O 3mm Alum. F.H. Washer (6)
111007F O 3mm Flat Locknut (10)
111007ST O 3mm Steel Locknut (10)
111041 O 3mm Alum. Cap Washer (6)
111046 O 4mm Alum. Flanged Lock Nut (Thin) (4)
111050 O Pipe Holder (3mm)
111118 O R5 R-clip (10)
111120 O R6 R-clip (10)
111122 O 10.1x13x0.3mm Washer (2)
111145 O Small Functional Alum. Antenna Rod Mount (w/antenna rod)
111146 O TM Dual Alum. Stopper (6)
114044 O Special Receiver Battery Pack Wire Set (w/mount)
114061 O 6v-1100mah Ni-MH Lightweight Special Size Pack (for G4S/Le Mans)
115002 O 4mm Ball Stud & Ball Cup (for 3mm rod)(6)
115016 O Antenna Rod (2)
115021 O 4.8mm Ball Stud & Ball Cup (for 4mm rod) (6)
115022 O 4mm Ball Stud & Shock Ball Cup (6)
115023 O Throttle Ball Cup (4)
115024 O 4mm Short Thread Ball Stud & Ball Cup (for 3mm rod) (5)
115025 O 4mm Short Neck Ball Stud & Ball Cup (for 3mm rod) (4)
116042 O Allen Wrench Set (1.5, 2.0, 2.5 & 5mm)
116043 O Cross Wrench (4, 5, 5.5 & 7mm)
116132C O 3x20mm CR Adjustable Rod (2)
116135C O 3x50mm CR Adjustable Rod (2)
116141-8C O 4x18mm CR Adjustable Rod (2)
116201 O 2x11mm Pin (10)
116202 O E-clip 2.5 (10)
116203 O E-clip 5 (10)
116207 O Throttle/Brake Linkage Spring (4)
116209 O 3x4.8x0.1mm (5) & 3x4.8x0.3mm Shim (5)
116216 O 3x6.5x1mm Alum. Washer (6)
116217 O O-ring P3 (10)
117001 O Alum. Stopper (4)
119001 O Silicone Fuel Tube (60cm)
126303S O 3x3mm Set Screw (6)
126305S O 3x5mm Set Screw (6)
126306C O 3x6mm Cap Screw (6)
126306BU O 3x6mm Steel Button Head Screw (6)
126308 O 3x8mm Steel F.H. Screw (6)
126308BU O 3x8mm Steel Button Head Screw (6)
126308C O 3x8mm Steel Cap Screw (6)
126310 O 3x10mm Steel F.H. Screw (6)
126310BU O 3x10mm Button Head Screw (6)
126312 O 3x12mm Steel F.H. Screw (6)
126312BU O 3x12mm Button Head Screw (6)
126312C O 3x12mm Cap Screw (6)
126314 O 3x14mm Steel FH Screw (6)
126314BU O 3x14mm Button Head Screw (6)
126320C O 3x20mm Cap Screw (6)
126404S O 4x4mm Set Screw (6)
126408S O 4x8mm Set Screw (6)
150407 O 4x7x2.5mm Bearing (2)
150407F O 4x7x2.5mm Flanged Bearing (2)
150508F O 5x8mm Flanged Bearing (2)
150510O O 5x10x4mm Dust-Resistant Bearing (4) Orange
150510F O 5x10mm Flanged Bearing (2)
502101 O G4 2 Speed Shoe Cam & Posts
502102 O G4 2 Speed Shoe (2)
502103 O G4 2 Speed Shoe Spring & Screw (2)
502107 O G4 2 Speed 1st Spur Gear 50T
502108 O G4 2 Speed 1st Spur Gear 51T
502109 O G4 2 Speed 1st Spur Gear 52T
502111 O G4 One Way Hub & Nut (w/bearing)
502115 O G4 Diff Case (2), Diff Case Cover (1) & Gasket (2)
502116 O G4 Diff Joint, P5 O-ring, 5x12mm Shim & 2x11mm Pin (2)
502117 O G4 4x10mm Shim, Bevel Shaft & Bevel Gear Set (1 set)
502118 O G4 Diff Case Gasket (4)
502122 O G4 Nylon Rear Pulley Set (w/screw)
502123 O #10000 Silicone Oil
502125 O #600 Silicone Oil
502129 O G4 P3 O-ring (4), Washer (4) & G-clip (4)
502130 O G4 Shock Shaft & Piston Set (2)
502151 O G4 9mm Low Friction Pivot Ball (2)
502153 O G4 Wheel Axle (2)
502173 O G4 5th Body Post Set
502174 O G4 Fuel Tank Supporter & Handle
502176 O G4 Drive Shaft (2)
502179 O G4 Caster Clip Set
502180 O G4 Front Lower Arm Stiffener Brace
502183 O G4 Front Body Post (2)
502184 O G4 Front Lower Bumper
502186 O G4 Bumper Foam Post Set (2)
502191 O G4 Rear Body Post Set (2)
502197 O G4 Brake Cam & Lever Set
502203 O G4 2 Speed Housing Dust Cover
502211 O G4 Belt Tensioner
502217 O G4 Throttle Linkage Set
502221 O G4 Servo Arm (Futaba) (2)
502222 O G4 Servo Spacer (4)
502223 O G4 Servo Arm (Ko, Sanwa & JR) (2)
502246 O G4 Middel Belt Mount
502262 O G4 Servo Mount Set (S/Le Mans)
502263 O G4 Radio Plate Support & Receiver Battery Mount (S/Le Mans)
502267 O G4 S Single Bell Crank Steering System
502268 O G4 Thick Servo Arm (Futaba) (2)
502269 O G4 Thick Servo Arm (Ko, Sanwa & JR) (2)
502270 O G4 S Receiver Mount
502272 O G4 Receiver Battery Pack Mount (S/Le Mans)
502274 O G4 ST Steel Hardened Drive Shaft 52.9mm (2)
502282 O G4 Duro 2 Speed 2nd Spur Gear 46T (use with 502284 & 502285)
502284 O G4 Duro 2 Speed Housing & Nut (w/bearing) (use with Duro gears and shoe)
502285 O G4 Duro 2 Speed Shoe (1 pair) (use with Duro housing and gears)
502286 O G4 Front Lower Flying Wing Arm (1 pair)
502287 O G4 Flying Wing Arm Clip and Spacer Set (2)
502288 O G4 New Rear Bulkhead (1 pair)
502289 O G4 Brake Bracket
502290 O G4 New Back Bracket
502291 O G4 Rear Lower Flying Wing Arm (1 pair)
502292 O G4 Front Upper Flying Wing Arm
502293 O G4 9mm Lightweight Low Friction Pivot Ball (2)
502294 O G4 3x6x0.5mm Iron Shims (G4+)
502317 O G4 Plus Shock (2)
502317-1 O G4 Plus Shock Ball End Set (2)
502317-2 O G4 Plus Shock Body & Cap Set (2)
502317-3 O G4 Plus Shock Bladder (4)
K1003 O Special 3mm Engine Mount Screw (5)
K1005 O Special 3mm Servo Holding Screw (5)
K1146-2 O Push Type Clutch Nut
K1146-11 O Thrust Bearing, 5x10mm
K1146-13 O Clearance Shim 5x9x0.1mm (5) & 7.1x13x0.1mm (1)
K1146-14 O 5x10mm Bearing (2)
K1146-15 O 3x12mm Cap Screw (2)
K1215-6 O 30mm Push Type Clutch Spring Adjusting Nut
K1410-8 O 30mm Push Type Clutch Spring (1.8mm Yellow)
K1418 O G4/FW05/V1RR Alum. Clamp Type Hex Wheel Hub (4)
K1419 O G4 Fuel Tank
K1430-1 O G4 New Strong Carbon Bumper Top Plate
K1448 O G4 Alum. Pivot Ball Nut & Teflon Washer(2)
K1449 O G4 Alum. Pivot Ball Nut & Teflon Washer(8)
K1463 O G4 Super Hardened Hinge Pin (Front Upper) (2)
K1464 O G4 Super Hardened Hinge Pin (Front Lower) (2)
K1465 O G4 Super Hardened Hinge Pin (Rear Upper) (2)
K1488 O G4 ST Steel Universal Joint (2) (for V1RRR front as well)
K1492 O G4 S-class Speed Gear Set
K1493 O G4 & V1 New Competition Low Friction Front Belt
K1494 O G4 & V1 New Competition Low Friction Side Belt
K1495 O G4 & V1 New Competition Low Friction Rear Belt
K1497 O UFO Push Type Clutch Set (for G4)
K1497-1 O UFO Push Type Clutch Collet (Nova Rossi)
K1497-2 O UFO Push Type Clutch Flywheel
K1497-3 O UFO Push Type Clutch Post (for Centrifugal Shoe) (6)
K1497-10 O UFO Push Type Clutch Centrifugal Shoe (3)
K1497-12 O UFO Hard Coated Alum. Push Type Clutch Housing (w/remove holes) (for G4)
K1497-13 O Clearance Shim 5x9x0.15mm (5) & 5x9.0.3mm (3)
K1498 O G4 Real Racing Brake Pads (glued with plate, for most Kyosho cars) (pair)
K14100 O G4 ST Steel 2 Speed Shoe Cam (w/special treatment)
K14102 O G4 Carbon Radio Plate (G4 S/Le Mans)
K14109 O G4 Rear 4mm Carbon Shock Tower (w/alum. stiffener)
K14110 O G4 Rear Dual Adjustable Anti Roll Bar Mount (w/bar)
K14115 O G4 Left A+C Radio Plate Support & Side Plate
K14116 O G4 Right A+C Radio Plate Support & Side Plate
K14122 O G4 ED Transmission System
K14122-1 O G4 ED HC Alum. One Piece 30T Front One Way / Solid Axle Set
K14122-2 O G4 ED HC 7075 Alum. 20T Pully & Middel Shaft
K14122-3 O G4 ED HC Alum. 27T Side Pulley
K14122-4 O G4 ED HC Alum. 19T Side Pulley
K14122-5 O G4 ED HC Steel 2 Speed Shaft
K14122-6 O G4 ED HC Alum. 21T Brake Pully
K14122-7 O G4 ED Lightweight Vent Brake Disc
K14122-8 O G4 ED Nylon 46T Rear Gear Diff Pulley
K14122-10 O G4 ED 3.1x11mm FH Washer (2)
K14122-16 O G4 ED HC 7075 Alum. 16T Clutch Gear
K14122-21 O G4 ED HC 7075 Alum. 21T Clutch Gear & Housing
K14123 O G4 Flash-Pit Quick Change Tire System
K14123-1 O G4 Flash-Pit System Insert (for stock G4 drive shaft)
K14123-3 O G4 Flash-Pit Rear Hub Carrier
K14124-1 O G4 Speed Shot Nylon Bulkhead
K14124-4 O G4 Speed Shot Carbon Shock Tower
K14124-5 O G4 Speed Shot Nylon Fuel Tank Post Mount
K14124-6 O G4 Speed Shot Nylon Bracket
K14126 O G4 Lightweight Alum. Brake Lever
K14127 O G4 Aluminum 7075 4mm Lightweight Chassis (S/RTR/Le Mans)
K14128 O G4 Rear Dual Adjustable Anti Roll Bar Mount (w/bar)
K14128-1 O G4 Front Dual Adjustable Anti Roll Bar
K14129 O G4 Lightweight Touring Bumper Foam
K14130 O G4 Alum. Rear Anti-Roll Bar Mounts (w/anti-roll bar) (G4+)
K14131 O G4 New Carbon Brake Bracket
K14132 O G4 Carbon Transponder Holder (S/RTR)
K14133 O G4 UFO 2 Push Type Clutch
K14133-1 O UFO 2 Push Type Clutch Shoe Special Mount
K14133-2 O UFO 2 Push Type Clutch Shoe
K14133-3 O UFO 2 Push Type Clutch Set Thrust Bearing Retainer (for G4)
K14134 O G4 ST Steel 3x60.5mm Super Hardened Hinge Pin (Rear Lower) (2)
K14136 O G4 New Alum. One Piece Engine Mount
K40612 O K Factory 6x12x4mm FF Bearing (6)
K41015 O K Factory 10x15x4mm FF Bearing (6)
K41218 O K Factory 12x18x4mm FF Bearing (6)
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Hi all,
With all those hop ups...i'll be more worried abt the weight after building.
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maybe, maybe not
Thats what we waiting to find out ...
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I have a list of all the parts for the G4+
Fantastic!

And here I thought we were going to have to do this the hard way.

Thanks razzor
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I need to double check this for sure, but I used razzors list that he provided above, to start a reference for G4+ parts.

http://www.nitrokb.com/g4plus/g4plus_parts.html

Highlighted rows are based on razzor's list

Black = G4 thru G4S parts
Blue = Existing option part
Red = New option part
Orange = Option part not used on the G4+
Grey = Unused G4 part (?)
Light Grey = Superseded part (?)
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I need to double check this for sure, but I used razzors list that he provided above, to start a reference for G4+ parts.

http://www.nitrokb.com/g4plus/g4plus_parts.html

Highlighted rows are based on razzor's list

Black = G4 thru G4S parts
Blue = Existing option part
Red = New option part
Orange = Option part not used on the G4+
Grey = Unused G4 part (?)
Light Grey = Superseded part (?)
NICE wrok!!!
and thanks for the cross reference between the G4s and the PLUS
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TecRace 2007: http://www.redrc.net/2007/06/johnny-...-2007-tecrace/

Does anyone know what happen to Darren's car in the final?
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Does anyone know what happen to Darren's car in the final?
Hi Rainer
From what i've read at the Spanish forum, he had engine problems that started with a foul plug. This raced was organized by Tetrotec the spanish importer for Team Magic and Orion engines....the catch was you either had to race with a TM Car or and Orion CRF engine...so they had Darren for TM and Adrien Bertin for Orion giving support to all attendants and a conference about both products....


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Thats sad to hear
But he did TQ

Anyway here is G4+ info



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