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Old 05-07-2007, 05:43 AM   #16
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Maybe it's worth waiting for the car at the end. When is that car coming out and what bits are going to be on that car?



http://www.teammagic.com.tw/g4/index.htm
Did you notice how that car is bigger?
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:46 AM   #17
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Did you notice how that car is bigger?
They all turn bigger when you put your mouse over each car...
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:47 AM   #18
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nice post SOW!

btw, shizuoka hobby show is in a couple of weeks.. lots of surprises im sure..

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thanks Ian, yes some surprises coming at the show ...
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Did you notice how that car is bigger?
That's pretty funny.
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The name is a bit confusing. Is this an upgrade to the G4S? (i.e. G4S+) And what's up with the term Limited Edition? To me, that usually means limited quantities.

Other than that - looking good!
That's what I said in the news post at 3hobby, its going to be limited quantities.

The name is correct, G4+ and not G4S+.
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Did you notice how that car is bigger?
Its the animation.
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Just looked at the pics on 3hobby.net, and the car looks interesting... It looks like a g4s with k factory side braces, steering plate, new chassis... I'll be curious to see how it handles.. Any inputs slow?
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finally they make a decent shock from all G4 generation, the minus point is the clutch. handling was always very good for me. but now im not racing this car anymore
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Looks like a nice refinement. Heres hoping the new parts are available soon as either an upgrade package or as separate items. Particularly interested in the new rear bulkheads - does that now class as roll centre adjustment?
New shocks look nice - I wonder if they are less finecky to build and keep consistent.

Also like the look of the new arms and the nylon top brace. Looks like we may be able to say goodbye to epoxy filler and expensive alloy.
The rear sway bar should be well received by all as well.
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Looks like a nice refinement. Heres hoping the new parts are available soon as either an upgrade package or as separate items. Particularly interested in the new rear bulkheads - does that now class as roll centre adjustment?
New shocks look nice - I wonder if they are less finecky to build and keep consistent.

Also like the look of the new arms and the nylon top brace. Looks like we may be able to say goodbye to epoxy filler and expensive alloy.
The rear sway bar should be well received by all as well.
everything on the car looks good and have to agree with you on the roll bar.
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Looks like a nice refinement. Heres hoping the new parts are available soon as either an upgrade package or as separate items. Particularly interested in the new rear bulkheads - does that now class as roll centre adjustment?
New shocks look nice - I wonder if they are less finecky to build and keep consistent.

Also like the look of the new arms and the nylon top brace. Looks like we may be able to say goodbye to epoxy filler and expensive alloy.
The rear sway bar should be well received by all as well.
It looks like they are going with a variable length arm in place of roll center adjustment through pin height in the rear. In theory the longer arm should improve stability and lateral grip. Since increasing the length of the arm will both slow and increase roll, the rear would change direction slower. Without changes to the front arm length you would expect the longer rear arm to give you more side bite and corner speed on high speed flowing turns. Initial turn in should improve but the rear would likely have trouble keeping pace with the front in chicanes resulting in diminishing steering stability in technical areas. I would think the optional arm length would be used more for circuit tuning than grip balance. In contrast a lower roll center would allow the car to roll more but have little to no change on quickly it does. The VLA adjustment in the rear is an interesting step that should be beneficial on high flow circuits but on dirty low grip technical tracks the car will still be missing the roll center adjustment needed, since you can't afford to give up the camber rise of the upper link's high roll setting. The best compromise I have found for this situation is to use the new rear hub with an 8mm shim stack and the upper inner pin position.


BTW for those of you that have had trouble with the G4s shocks you can ease their build by drilling a #56 bleeding hole in the middle of 1 side of the cap. When using the new blue bladders the self bleeding hole will give you a consistent rebound every time to the point where the shaft is extended when tightening down the cap. This mod won't solve their crappy lower seal problem so you will still need to rebuild them every few meets to keep them fresh but sure will make them as easy to do as tamiya shocks.


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finally they make a decent shock from all G4 generation, the minus point is the clutch. handling was always very good for me. but now im not racing this car anymore
What are you going to be racing now??
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The next generation and a step foreward again............

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