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Old 03-04-2010, 04:31 AM   #3541
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good .... excuse me change the subject, but what is the serpent Transmicion of using for the MTX-4R? the 733 or 720? thank you ..
They are the same. Before the 720 changed, Serpent released a WC (wide contact) transmission which is the one Andy and JC are using on their car. Its the whole shaft with spurs and Serpent Centax.
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good .... excuse me change the subject, but what is the serpent Transmicion of using for the MTX-4R? the 733 or 720? thank you ..
mmm sound like some is looking every advantage point to start racing soon
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I have had problems and would like to try and resolve this problem with actual Mugen parts. I have learned and observed from a few guys especially my pit partner how to make some decent power with the tranny but to be honest I often dial that power down( in throttle on the remote) so that I can actually finish the race without blowing the gear and or gears.

this sacrifice has cost races and positions down in races, If I can ASAP i am going to make trial projects if successful I will post specifics. If any one has made steps to correct the problem and would like to share by all means post it.

I am stocked up on parts and love the car and still feel with correction it can be better.
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I have had problems and would like to try and resolve this problem with actual Mugen parts. I have learned and observed from a few guys especially my pit partner how to make some decent power with the tranny but to be honest I often dial that power down( in throttle on the remote) so that I can actually finish the race without blowing the gear and or gears.

this sacrifice has cost races and positions down in races, If I can ASAP i am going to make trial projects if successful I will post specifics. If any one has made steps to correct the problem and would like to share by all means post it.

I am stocked up on parts and love the car and still feel with correction it can be better.
i saw swaugers car with a capricorn clutch on the winternats i believe or nationals!
fukuda on japan mentioned on his last nationals (which he won ahead of shimo) he used serpent clutch, dont know if stock or wc clutch!
tironi from italy runs sirio clutch but with 23t pulley!
so up to you, there are some rrr drivers over here that prefer sirio clutch
others, capricorn, even with rrr shimos edition!
up to you
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i saw swaugers car with a capricorn clutch on the winternats i believe or nationals!
fukuda on japan mentioned on his last nationals (which he won ahead of shimo) he used serpent clutch, dont know if stock or wc clutch!
tironi from italy runs sirio clutch but with 23t pulley!
so up to you, there are some rrr drivers over here that prefer sirio clutch
others, capricorn, even with rrr shimos edition!
up to you
Must of been the winternats. Swauger did not run 1/10 at the Nats in Toledo unless it was just there for show.

23t pulley???? Where was this used on the car????
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Swauger's car was using Capricorn Clutch with Kyosho Pinions. I saw it in my hand and still don't know how he achieved it. A friend of mine tried it but wasn't able to get a good mesh, so good luck with that.

The Serpent Transmission has seen zero stripping issues. No matter how much power the engine puts out or the clutch handles, it isnt a problem.
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Must of been the winternats. Swauger did not run 1/10 at the Nats in Toledo unless it was just there for show.

23t pulley???? Where was this used on the car????
side belt, so to use a 4mm split i believe! he told me so via some weeks ago while chatting!
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Must of been the winternats. Swauger did not run 1/10 at the Nats in Toledo unless it was just there for show.

23t pulley???? Where was this used on the car????
side belt, so to use a 4mm split i believe! he told me so via fb some weeks ago while chatting!
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Old 03-13-2010, 03:13 PM   #3549
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I need a little help to choose a front diff oil for my MTX4.

I allways used one-way in front with 30K rear diff oil, and the car is not bad. But i want to give front diff a chance.

What should i start with?

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I need a little help to choose a front diff oil for my MTX4.

I allways used one-way in front with 30K rear diff oil, and the car is not bad. But i want to give front diff a chance.

What should i start with?

Thks in advance.

Luís Cortez

50K should be a good starting point
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What should i start with?
Below are some tips from the MTX-4 knowledge base. Based on the traction of the technical track I raced on, I ran 30K front (Kysho oil) and 10K rear (Kyosho oil) in my MTX-4 and the car was good to go. I could go full throttle 2/3 through the sweeper leading into the straight and the car would track like it was on rails!

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A (Tag): 30,000 is a good starting point but generally speaking if your car pushes try a bit heavier oil like 50,000, if you need more traction at the rear or if your car feels twitchy then go with 10,000.

A (THE DOCTOR): I usually run 30,000 in the rear diff, but that is to keep the rear inside wheel from diffing up so much on these untreated parking lot tracks. When we ran the take off rubber tires I ran 10,000 in the rear and 30,000 in the front but that is the only time that I ever ran a front diff.

A (kidDynomite): If you choose to go diff, 100k up front and 5-10k in the rear works pretty good too with no worries to the universals.
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Hi all

I need a little help to choose a front diff oil for my MTX4.

I allways used one-way in front with 30K rear diff oil, and the car is not bad. But i want to give front diff a chance.

What should i start with?

Thks in advance.

Luís Cortez
Start with 50 front and 50 rear.
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50/50 front and rear....
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What type of traction/bite is 50/50 diff oil good for? How long have you guys been running with equal oil front and rear? When you go up or down in weight, do you make it the same (i.e. 30/30, 10/10, etc...) or different?
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What type of traction/bite is 50/50 diff oil good for? How long have you guys been running with equal oil front and rear? When you go up or down in weight, do you make it the same (i.e. 30/30, 10/10, etc...) or different?
I tried it either late last year or early this year...
50/50 on good traction and 30/30 on lower traction...
I've never tried 10/10... I'm guessing that the last alternative would be 30/10

The car turns in great with the 50/50 set up and it does not diff out like I thought it would.
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