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Old 05-17-2009, 03:48 PM   #2971
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I have had my Mugen for a couple of years now, and upgraded it to the
MTX4R, and have had countless engine,pipe combos in it, and I bet I can count on one hand how many spur gears I have stripped.
If the chassis plate is tweaked, gear mesh off,bent layshaft, any number of things can cause you to strip spur gears.
I also have a couple of Kyosho RRRs, and one of the spur gears stripped every time I ran it. I found the bearings in the lay shaft gritty, and the lay shaft itself slightly bent. This was well over a year ago, and even now, the Mugen and both RRRs have not stripped gears in over a year, and I run all three cars every weekend.
Check your bearings, shafts, engine alignment, radio plate.
There must be something you have over looked, or not thought of checking.
I'm not sure who you are repling too. But we are talking about diff gears not spur gears.


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Old 05-17-2009, 04:38 PM   #2972
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do yall really want to get me going on stripped gears and 2 speeds
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do yall really want to get me going on stripped gears and 2 speeds
not really because its a non issue.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:03 PM   #2974
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I have had my Mugen for a couple of years now, and upgraded it to the
MTX4R, and have had countless engine,pipe combos in it, and I bet I can count on one hand how many spur gears I have stripped.
If the chassis plate is tweaked, gear mesh off,bent layshaft, any number of things can cause you to strip spur gears.
I also have a couple of Kyosho RRRs, and one of the spur gears stripped every time I ran it. I found the bearings in the lay shaft gritty, and the lay shaft itself slightly bent. This was well over a year ago, and even now, the Mugen and both RRRs have not stripped gears in over a year, and I run all three cars every weekend.
Check your bearings, shafts, engine alignment, radio plate.
There must be something you have over looked, or not thought of checking.
Hey Guys, i am a bit new to the Mugen, but my fellow club mates have been running this car for over 3 years now - All i can say is HOW MANY OF YOU RUNNING the ALLI PINION GEARS?????

Ever since all the guys have changed to the STEEL PINIONS we see no such stripping of the Spurs!

Yes it might add some extra weight to the rotation mass but compensate that for no fuss racing.

Also over the weekend at the State Nationals a fair few mugens ran not one spur was stripped!

Its an option to try guys - but yeah what is everyone running in PINIONS... ALLI or STEEL?

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not really because its a non issue.
yeah its a non issue now, but before the new tranny came out it was a big issue. I havent stripped a gear since other than race damage
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yeah its a non issue now, but before the new tranny came out it was a big issue. I havent stripped a gear since other than race damage
I don't use the updated 2speed clutch or the steel pinions and don't have a problem unless I miss the gear mesh.
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yes you can with both. just add a little more diff fluid
BG if you are running the stock 10k fluid for low bite you just add more fluid and don't have to change to thicker fluid?? Thanks
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:21 AM   #2978
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Great News in My MTX-4R kit is in Australia hopefully i see it tomorrow or Friday! Cant wait to start building the sucker.... been a while since i played
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I believe that gear stripping problem has nothing to do with alu or steel pinnions. I think that gears strip when you hit a bump or plate while running in 2nd gear. Last year we were running on a bumpy track with a lot of plates in corners and gear stripping was a common problem, this year we have a super smooth surface and no plates and the problem is gone.

One more common mistake - always clean the chassis from sand particles when attaching engine or it will become loose in a while and will strip gears.
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I believe that gear stripping problem has nothing to do with alu or steel pinnions. I think that gears strip when you hit a bump or plate while running in 2nd gear. Last year we were running on a bumpy track with a lot of plates in corners and gear stripping was a common problem, this year we have a super smooth surface and no plates and the problem is gone.

One more common mistake - always clean the chassis from sand particles when attaching engine or it will become loose in a while and will strip gears.
Cheers for that info, will see what my car kit does when i am up and running in a few weeks.... Hopefully i dont encounter that issue - thou i do hear the new material on the spurs has been manufactured better these days! Is this true?
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Cheers for that info, will see what my car kit does when i am up and running in a few weeks.... Hopefully i dont encounter that issue - thou i do hear the new material on the spurs has been manufactured better these days! Is this true?
The new material is probably a bit better, but you can still strip it, all depends from where and/or how you drive. Don't worry about that so much, just always keep a few replacement gears near, luckily they are not that expensive and doesn't take long to change.
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The new material is probably a bit better, but you can still strip it, all depends from where and/or how you drive. Don't worry about that so much, just always keep a few replacement gears near, luckily they are not that expensive and doesn't take long to change.
Its all good man, i used to have the TMG4S - never ever had spur issues - i guess i took care in how i mesh and yeah tightening your engine does HELP!

I think its all common sense.....
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Regarding the pinions - they can cause the stripping problem. Not their material though, but their shape. The alloy pinions do wear and worn pinions mean problems. Steel ones last much longer, but I still run the Alu ones and just change them when they go out of shape, depending on the amount of dust and sand on the track this can be anything from 1 to 10 hours of running.
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Hey Guys,

Guess what i got my Mugen MTX4R yesterday and i got stuck right into the build, as always i created a blog to show case the intial build up for all Mugen Lovers: http://mtx4r.blogspot.com/ - I hope to have some written content added later tonight!

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What's the part# for the 2 pins that are put in to lock the one-way to a solid? Know where i can get them?
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