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Old 04-30-2009, 07:16 AM   #2911
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1 degree chamber you suggested above.... , I think they are applicable for 1/10 electric with rubber tires.

For 1/10 nitro car with foam tires, normally we use 1.5 - 2.5 degree for front tires, and 3.0 to 4.0 degree for rear chamber, depending on the track layout ( lots of right turns or left turns ) and grip level.
what can i take if i use 0-0.5 camper but with very short upper link,so i can take more camper when the suspension compress?
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what can i take if i use 0-0.5 camper but with very short upper link,so i can take more camper when the suspension compress?
Are you talking about camber rise for electric car again ?
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Are you talking about camber rise for electric car again ?
no nitro.
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no nitro.
I assume you have mtx4 nitro car.

If you want more camber rise as you compress the rear suspension ; you add more shims on the rear uprights. Or you put the rear upper link to the lowest position on rear bulkhead. Or you find some ways to shorten the upper link even more ( in textbook : short upper link = more camber rise )
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:15 AM   #2915
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Kawahara has an upper link mount with multiple camber rise positions...

and the one from the mtx4 is different than the one from the mtx4r


I feel the one from the mtx4r is perfect, no need for change. Hated the regular mtx4 one
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I assume you have mtx4 nitro car.

If you want more camber rise as you compress the rear suspension ; you add more shims on the rear uprights. Or you put the rear upper link to the lowest position on rear bulkhead. Or you find some ways to shorten the upper link even more ( in textbook : short upper link = more camber rise )

i know how can i gain more camber.
the question is if there is a difference when you use 0-0,5 degree uncobress 4 degree cobress and when you use 2.5-3 deg with 3-3.5deg cobress.
does any one know?
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Kawahara has an upper link mount with multiple camber rise positions...

and the one from the mtx4 is different than the one from the mtx4r


I feel the one from the mtx4r is perfect, no need for change. Hated the regular mtx4 one
u r talking about the t0144 and t0161 mounts?
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:42 AM   #2918
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i know how can i gain more camber.
the question is if there is a difference when you use 0-0,5 degree uncobress 4 degree cobress and when you use 2.5-3 deg with 3-3.5deg cobress.
does any one know?

Here is the difference : when you run the car with little degree of camber, your tires will wear conical to the outside. Why conical to the outside ? because there is not enough camber. The negative effects : flip over and tires chipping.

The goal : You want your tires to wear evenly or slightly conical to the inside after 5 minutes ( heat 123 ), and also even after 30 minutes or 45 minutes ( B final or A final ).
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Hi,
I have got my MTX4-R handling quite good at my local track but the car is a little taily if I drive it too aggressive any ideas...........
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post your setup and im sure one of setup wizards on here can tell u what to change
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Is anyone using the Kawahara front upper arm mounts that shorten the upper arms?

What are people doing to get more than 1.5* of camber when using the outer hole on the upper arm mount?

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I have got my MTX4-R handling quite good at my local track but the car is a little taily if I drive it too aggressive any ideas...........
give your set up & tire size also what body
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Here is the difference : when you run the car with little degree of camber, your tires will wear conical to the outside. Why conical to the outside ? because there is not enough camber. The negative effects : flip over and tires chipping.

The goal : You want your tires to wear evenly or slightly conical to the inside after 5 minutes ( heat 123 ), and also even after 30 minutes or 45 minutes ( B final or A final ).
i think that little degree with very short upper link is different from a more degree with long upper link.
what do you think guys?
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Is anyone using the Kawahara front upper arm mounts that shorten the upper arms?

What are people doing to get more than 1.5* of camber when using the outer hole on the upper arm mount?

Thanks
wow that's alot of camber when the arms give so much steering

me and all the guys I've seen run them use 1 degree front only, with spool and two hole front pistons

that said, you grind the top arm so the ball goes in deeper

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