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Old 12-01-2008, 08:17 PM   #2326
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Buy the kit from ACER. When and if you need spares( which you will) get them from avidbearings.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:21 AM   #2327
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keep it up frens...lots of thing i had learn from here...
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Congratulations to Mike Swauger taking the win at brazil....


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Old 12-03-2008, 05:07 AM   #2329
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Are the bearings ceramic? The best Ceramic bearing I used ( Tested ) are the ACER Racing!!!
what the different?..
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:02 AM   #2330
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They weigh less. This benefit is two fold because the bearings are rotating weight and the bearings in your up-rite's are unsprung weight.
They offer less rolling resistance which frees up power. The power that was being consumed to over come the weight and resistance of steel is now being used to push the car.
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:19 AM   #2331
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Speaking of unsprung weight. Has anyone ever had the plastic wheel hexs go bad. I'm thinking of switching back to the plastic hexes. I believe it saves almost 8 grams of unsprung weight.

Any comments????

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Speaking of unsprung weight. Has anyone ever had the plastic wheel hexs go bad. I'm thinking of switching back to the plastic hexes. I believe it saves almost 8 grams of unsprung weight.

Any comments????

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I think alluminium wheel hex will stand side way impact much2 better than plastic wheelhex. With plastic wheel hex, the pin might collapsed on side way impact, making the wheelhex rubbing the bearing, thus wobbling. Don't forget, the bearing might be hot during racing period and cause wheel hex wobbling.

I guess alluminium wheel hex is still the best optional equipment for racing competition.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:11 AM   #2333
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I think alluminium wheel hex will stand side way impact much2 better than plastic wheelhex. With plastic wheel hex, the pin might collapsed on side way impact, making the wheelhex rubbing the bearing, thus wobbling. Don't forget, the bearing might be hot during racing period and cause wheel hex wobbling.

I guess alluminium wheel hex is still the best optional equipment for racing competition.

Thanks for your comments


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Old 12-03-2008, 10:59 AM   #2334
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If you have access to a drill press you can drill them on axis at tho six points. Remember the clamping screw is only there to hold it on when the wheels off.
The biggest problem I have seen with the plastic hexes, you cant hammer the wheel nuts on...
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:15 PM   #2335
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If you have access to a drill press you can drill them on axis at tho six points. Remember the clamping screw is only there to hold it on when the wheels off.
The biggest problem I have seen with the plastic hexes, you cant hammer the wheel nuts on...

I take it you mean drilling the hexes on the flats? Size drill bit???
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:00 PM   #2336
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If the hex was laying on a surface with the face that contacts the wheel, if you took a wheel off and looked directly at it, if you were looking at a six sided stop sign. This would be flat on the table of the drill press. The backside with the step in it to make sure the hex only contacts the inner race of the bearing would be facing the ceiling.
The size of the drill bit I don't remember. The last set I made are on my pit guys car and he is 130 miles away. What I did to determine the size of the drill bit was to measure from the I.D.(the hole for the axle) to the tip of the drive face of the hex. Subtracted two millimeter from this to obtain the drill bit side.
I only drilled the two points 90 degs. to the screw this size. The other four points sizes varied after replacing the steel screw with a ti one to maintain balance. I use a magnetic prop balancer for balancing.
What you just said I did not even think about. The drive flats could also be drilled to further reduce weight with out sacrificing support to the drive area of the wheel hub. !BITCHIN!...YBSlow fire up that CNC
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Here are the list of parts differentiating the MTX-4 kit with the MTX-4R:

1. Aluminum Wheel Hub : Part# T0142
2. Front Lower Arm : Part# T0151-B
3. Rear Upper Arm Mount : Part# T0161
4. Front Upright (2) : Part# T0164
5. Front Universal Joint : Part# T0245
6 .Front Belt (Rubber) : Part# T0268
7. Rear Belt (Rubber) : Part# T0269
8. Side Belt (Rubber) : Part# T0270
9. Rear Universal Joint : Part# T0274
10. Front One-Way Drive Axle : Part# T0276
11. Ventilated Brake Disk : Part# H0369
12. Aluminum Engine Mount : Part# T0717

As far as where to purchase them : www.kamikazetoysandhobbies.com . I suggest calling them direct at (714) 997-8697

Hope this helps,
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BiggDogg33,

Here are the list of parts differentiating the MTX-4 kit with the MTX-4R:

1. Aluminum Wheel Hub : Part# T0142
2. Front Lower Arm : Part# T0151-B
3. Rear Upper Arm Mount : Part# T0161
4. Front Upright (2) : Part# T0164
5. Front Universal Joint : Part# T0245
6 .Front Belt (Rubber) : Part# T0268
7. Rear Belt (Rubber) : Part# T0269
8. Side Belt (Rubber) : Part# T0270
9. Rear Universal Joint : Part# T0274
10. Front One-Way Drive Axle : Part# T0276
11. Ventilated Brake Disk : Part# H0369
12. Aluminum Engine Mount : Part# T0717

As far as where to purchase them : www.kamikazetoysandhobbies.com . I suggest calling them direct at (714) 997-8697

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Speaking of unsprung weight. Has anyone ever had the plastic wheel hexs go bad. I'm thinking of switching back to the plastic hexes. I believe it saves almost 8 grams of unsprung weight.

Any comments????

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3 years using plastic hexes, just make sure to rotate them
and use a shim between it and the bearing, no problems whatsoever
except with certain foam brands where the fit is too tight and
when you release the tire, it will draw the plastic hexe

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Speaking of unsprung weight. Has anyone ever had the plastic wheel hexs go bad. I'm thinking of switching back to the plastic hexes. I believe it saves almost 8 grams of unsprung weight.

Any comments????

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i hit too much stuff, and they always used to end up crammed into my rims. so i went metal, alum, and im good.

drilling them, man, that would be a good amount of work?
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