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Old 09-29-2008, 09:52 PM   #2131
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The Evo 2 drives really nice and the drivetrain is super smooth (thank the updated clutch and 2 speed). I got one to tide me over until the mtx5 comes out and its very impressive on the track, however the quality of the plastics and the fit and finish are nothing on mugen or xray. I've had my mugen over a year and the grub screws in the plastic sway bar holder havent stripped, I used my RRR at 1 meet and one of them is gone. Same with the exhaust holder.

So yeah, the evo2 is probably a little better, but I think from a wear and tear perspective it wont last half as long as mugen. My 2c would be to go xray
I had just the opposite experience. I think both have good plastic but I used to strip more screws with the Mugen than the Kyosho. My sway bar holder just got changed after over a year and a half because they finally wore out. For me the Kyosho parts last longer than the Mugen. That being said, the only thing I would be concerned about with the Mugen is 2nd gear.
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:01 PM   #2132
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I had just the opposite experience. I think both have good plastic but I used to strip more screws with the Mugen than the Kyosho. My sway bar holder just got changed after over a year and a half because they finally wore out. For me the Kyosho parts last longer than the Mugen. That being said, the only thing I would be concerned about with the Mugen is 2nd gear.
I strip quite a few on the Mugen myself. I feel the Kyosho was a greater effort in getting the screws in bcoz of the the different sizes of screws. Mugen had it quite consistent.

NT1, from what i heard has a nice fit and the plastic dun allow you to strip unless you are Incredile Hulk!

Yes.. 2nd gear.. but i seem have to have solved the problem after stripping 'hundreds' of them.
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I strip quite a few on the Mugen myself. I feel the Kyosho was a greater effort in getting the screws in bcoz of the the different sizes of screws. Mugen had it quite consistent.

NT1, from what i heard has a nice fit and the plastic dun allow you to strip unless you are Incredile Hulk!

Yes.. 2nd gear.. but i seem have to have solved the problem after stripping 'hundreds' of them.
That is good you have the 2nd gear issued solved. I never had that issue, but I see plenty strip at every race.
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i have had all mugens, and they are made like steel. once u get the car to spec and the mesh is set correctly. the gears are fine. all the cars strip more than other older cars with the .8 gears i see.

go with what is easier to get parts and support.

if u look at the mugen and xray. the xray has all the options that the mugen does with a few changes. so i respect mugen for doing it first

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I never had a problem stripping mugen gears, then first meet with the kyosho and I strip 2nd in the final
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I have never had unexplainable gear stripping problem with either car, but it is undeniably a problem with the mugen. There are way too many racers with all levels of experience that strip mugen gears with no obvious explanation.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:20 AM   #2137
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Whats up Scott, is the Kyosho thread slow tonight? lol

I know some people strip gears for unexplainable reasons but they forgot to mention jumping the car over chicanes, hitting a few boards here and there. lol

Looking forward to seeing you at the K.O. race...
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:10 AM   #2138
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Sorry to bring this up as I think this post has been lost with all the replys..

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How do i make the bodyshell to have higher downforce but yet comply with the rules for 200mm?

I only know the easy way out by having a bigger wing, but that would contravene the rules right?
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:52 AM   #2139
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Yes.. 2nd gear.. but i seem have to have solved the problem after stripping 'hundreds' of them.
What was the fix?
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What was the fix?
It was a long process, there is no quick fix.

Basically, to ensure there is no strip plastics in the rear bulkhead, the main shaft is not bend, the bearing are good.

More importantly, the clutch bell not touching the 2nd gear housing (i found mine was touching), also the meshing, it must be 'wide' enough to have some free play.. i try to get a picture to show you a idea of how much spacing it has.

Hope this helps.
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It was a long process, there is no quick fix.

Basically, to ensure there is no strip plastics in the rear bulkhead, the main shaft is not bend, the bearing are good.

More importantly, the clutch bell not touching the 2nd gear housing (i found mine was touching), also the meshing, it must be 'wide' enough to have some free play.. i try to get a picture to show you a idea of how much spacing it has.

Hope this helps.
Please get a picture. Anyone else who also doesnt have this problem post a pic.
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If Mugen does come out with a new car I would like to see lighter diff gears maybe titanium. Any comments???
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If Mugen does come out with a new car I would like to see lighter diff gears maybe titanium. Any comments???
I'm not sure but I saw diff gears from Knack and I'm assuming it is a lightened version. MSR makes a lot of lightened drivetrain parts along YBslow....
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Hey Francis!!

Yeah, the K thread was a bit slow and somebody here was asking about both the Mugen and Kyosho car.
YBSLOW does have quite a few lightweight drivetrain partsfor the Mugen car. No lightweight diff gears.....yet. Actually I don't think he will have those parts, but you never know.

I can also say he is working on a fix for the gear stripping issue. Not a band-aid but a fix. Some testing has already been done and it looks good right now. The sedan nats will be a major test.

See you at the KO race..... going to run 1/8th again after about 2 years.
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Hey Francis!!

Yeah, the K thread was a bit slow and somebody here was asking about both the Mugen and Kyosho car.
YBSLOW does have quite a few lightweight drivetrain partsfor the Mugen car. No lightweight diff gears.....yet. Actually I don't think he will have those parts, but you never know.

I can also say he is working on a fix for the gear stripping issue. Not a band-aid but a fix. Some testing has already been done and it looks good right now. The sedan nats will be a major test.

See you at the KO race..... going to run 1/8th again after about 2 years.


I'm planning on running sedan for the K.O. race.. I need to get track time with the 1/8th in club races before running it at a big race.
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