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Old 08-27-2008, 07:53 PM   #1981
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No, not necessarily. There are many hopups which improve things that are made by companies other than the chassis manufacturerer.
I guess so. It will be up to the consumer to decide if they need such hop ups then.

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Thanks Scott. If so then wouldn't Mugen be coming out with something like that? I mean there has to a reason for Mugen not having the brace and allowing some kind of flex right?
More flex means more grip. I've never had a stripping problem (even with the 3mm chassis) so based on my experience the car doesnt need any further bracing and I can see why mugen don't bother coming out with one
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Old 08-28-2008, 01:26 AM   #1984
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It wasn't manufactured to make your car handle better or generate quicker lap times. Your car does have better lap times with two good spur gears on the car and that is what the brace was created for.
Those braces, yes, they will stiffen up the rear bulkheads, but some people still broke off their spur gears even with those braces on.
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Those braces, yes, they will stiffen up the rear bulkheads, but some people still broke off their spur gears even with those braces on.
Airbags in cars don't always prevent injury.
Loctite doesn't always keep a screw from coming out.
Do I need more examples here??

I never made any guarantee that it will never strip a gear. All I said is that it was created to keep the rear of the car from flexing. The reason to reduce/eliminate the flex was to help with the gear stripping problem. People have tried everything listed on this site for a few years and many still have gear stripping problems. This brace is another tool that can be used to help cure that problem.
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Hi everyone. Hope ypu don't mind me posting here but I am getting out of r/c for a bit I have a very clean and well maintained MTX4R for sale on the for sale thread. Email me at [email protected]. Thanks Troy
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More flex means more grip. I've never had a stripping problem (even with the 3mm chassis) so based on my experience the car doesnt need any further bracing and I can see why mugen don't bother coming out with one
same here, there are 6 mtx4 and 3 mtx4R, and all of them with no hop ups ,
original spurs springs and 2 speed shoes, no stripping.
gear mesh and alignment, almost contact between the 2 speed and shoes and
make sure no loose screws, ah and pinions in good shape should prevent.

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I have been able to solve my gear stripping problems by doing the following:

1)Changed my rear bulkheads. Makes for nice and snug screws
2)Replaced the two speed clutch shoe and springs with the udpated parts from Mugen. T0285 & T0286
3) Replaced my pinions gears since they looked worn out big time. (Steel pinions)
4) Use the udpated spur gears from mugen (1st Speed: T0279-81 & 2nd Speed: T0282-84

5) Proper gear mesh (As close as possible but not to overdo it)

Lastly, I made sure that the two speed clutch shoes had a gap of .5 mm

It seems like a lot but worth the effort.

I don't use a 4mm chassis.
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Airbags in cars don't always prevent injury.
Loctite doesn't always keep a screw from coming out.
Do I need more examples here??

I never made any guarantee that it will never strip a gear. All I said is that it was created to keep the rear of the car from flexing. The reason to reduce/eliminate the flex was to help with the gear stripping problem. People have tried everything listed on this site for a few years and many still have gear stripping problems. This brace is another tool that can be used to help cure that problem.
Chill out friend..... why so defensive. Most of us in here knows you always make good & reasonable advices.
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Old 08-30-2008, 02:04 AM   #1990
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Because the emoticon on your post made me feel as if you were saying that there this does not help. Sorry if I misinterpreted them.

When it comes to the gear stripping problem it really is a mystery. There are way too many people that strip gears without any reasonable explanation. People have tried and tried to come up with explanations and "fixes" and the real issue is nobody knows what the cause of the problem is. I had no unexplained gear problems when I ran that car, but way too many people do to just say that it is operator error. The MTX4 uses the same spurs and 2 speed as the MTX3 prospec (different size pinions) but gear stripping was not nearly as big a problem with the old car.
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The MTX4 uses the same spurs and 2 speed as the MTX3 prospec (different size pinions) but gear stripping was not nearly as big a problem with the old car.
I noticed the same thing. I ran the MTX3 and I can't remember stripping gears like I did with the MTX4. Like you said there's way too many people having the problem for it not to be a problem with the car.
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I'm guessing the gears and the 2speed would be the problems as they revised these parts after doing the R&D to find the solution.If not can we get some input from somebody from the Mugen Team? I mean with so many random people having this problem maybe one of them ran across the same problem which might be the reason Mugen revised the parts in the first place?
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I doubt anyone from Mugen is going to come on here and openly admit a fault of the car. If anything, they'll fix it by selling a WCE, or a MTX5. More money in it that way. And you have to remember, if they made a perfect car, parts sales would drop big time meaning $$$$ goes down with it.
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I know my stripped gears were me LOL

I was just looking at my gears, and the spurs that stripped in the main, I got the wrong 2nd gear Its 52 instead of 53, which is why I probably couldn't figure out gear mesh, It was either to tight, or to loose. Just put the right ones on, and it it perfect on both gears

I dont care lol, I will admit its my fault, not the car
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I know my stripped gears were me LOL

I was just looking at my gears, and the spurs that stripped in the main, I got the wrong 2nd gear Its 52 instead of 53, which is why I probably couldn't figure out gear mesh, It was either to tight, or to loose. Just put the right ones on, and it it perfect on both gears

I dont care lol, I will admit its my fault, not the car
All the gears are the same diameter no matter what, so you can use any combination of 1st and 2nd that you need. It's not the cause of the gear stripping.
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