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Old 02-21-2007, 05:02 PM   #1
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Default Better deal -- mtx-4 or rrr

Which is a better deal?

Mugen Seiki MTX-4 -- $339.99 @brooklynhobbies.com
I need get some hop-ups like the front universals etc.

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Kyosho RRR Evo WCE Team (#31260b) -- $430.00 (Delivered). No hop-ups really needed.

I already got the RB Concepts Speedline Matrix RW .12 engine and the Skyline VR12 Plus pipe.

Which one would you guys go for? Brooklyn hobbies have the MTX-4 for this price for 1 or 2 more weeks.

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Old 02-21-2007, 05:07 PM   #2
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it totally depend on part aveilability for you.
I never run RRR before so I can't tell but MTX only need front CVD , Alu Wheel adaptor and 4mm shock tower to be ready. the cost add up will be about the same. so it is totally a flip of a coin if you can't decide
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Parts is not an issue in my area. Parts for both kits are easy to get. I've been thinking about this one all week. I better hurry if I'm to get the MTX-4.


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Old 02-21-2007, 05:13 PM   #4
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Which is a better deal?

Mugen Seiki MTX-4 -- $339.99 @brooklynhobbies.com
I need get some hop-ups like the front universals etc.

or


Kyosho RRR Evo WCE Team (#31260b) -- $430.00 (Delivered). No hop-ups really needed.

I already got the RB Concepts Speedline Matrix RW .12 engine and the Skyline VR12 Plus pipe.

Which one would you guys go for? Brooklyn hobbies have the MTX-4 for this price for 1 or 2 more weeks.

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From what I've heard locally from people who have used both...the Kyosho is better in that it's easier to get it set right and feel comfortable. It took them more time to setup the Mugen to get the feel they wanted.

I have only the RRR so I can't comment on any comparison past what I've heard from people.
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Take your pick. Both cars are good out on the track. Ultimately, you are the deciding factor in your car's performance - not the cars themselves.

By the time you buy the universals (front/rear) and one-piece engine mount (you really need to get this) for the MTX-4, the price is about the same as the RRR. If you are going on price alone, it's the same.

It's much easier to install and remove the engine in the RRR, than it is in the MTX-4. This is the only issue I have with the car. Maybe I'm just spoiled because I own the RRR. Other issues I have with the car are minor.

Download the manual for both cars and take a look at how each one is put together. Although a lot of the parts look the same, the cars are engineered quite differently. Mechanically, each car has it's pros and cons from a wrenching perspective - but that doesn't really matter once the car is out on the track. It only matters when you have to fix something or do routine maintenance.

Hope this helps.
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I picked the mtx-4 simply because I moved from the MTX-3 prospec and alot of the parts can be carried over to the mtx-4. I never owned a RRR but I heard that out of the box the RRR rear end is a little looser than the MTX-4. And I really lost track of all the different models of the RRR. But don't get me wrong the RRR is a very competitive car
The bottom line would be local parts availablity and the price of the parts. I really don't have any info on the price difference in the replacement parts of the RRR vs MTX-4
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The reason the RRR is looser out of the box, is because it comes with a one-way and 30K diff oil for the rear. If you change to a front diff or solid, 30K front, 10K rear solves that problem real quick. If you stick with the one-way, 20K or 10K in the rear will tighten things up a bit but then you don't have any brakes. It just all depends on what type of track you're going to be racing on.

MTX-4 parts are cheaper - but it also depends on where you buy them.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:06 PM   #8
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to be honest I drove both cars bone stock out of the box (not same engine) using the same tires and I found both of them to perform the same for me. Now I do tend to prefer to be slightly loose, but I didn't notice one or the other being overly so. I dunno maybe I'm not experienced enough to notice.
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Well, I decided to go with the MTX-4, I can't pass up on that low price. For now I plan on getting both front and rear Universals, one piece engine mount and a thicker rear tower. Now I really like Skyline's aftermarket parts. Can anybody tell me if any of the listed parts helps performance any or is it just useless "bling" that just adds weight and $$.

http://murnanmodified.com/index.php?cPath=22
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1. Alum Brake Arm for MTX-4 $10.00
2. Alum Brake Bracket for MTX-4 $15.00 XXXX
3. Alum Engine Brace for MTX-4 $10.00
4. Alum Front Bulkhead Cover $16.00
5. Alum Front Upper Roll Center mount for MTX-4 (1 pair) $20.00
6. Alum Mid Bearing Block for MTX-4 $15.00
7. Alum Rear Sway Bar Holders MT-MTX-408 Price $10.00


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Well, I decided to go with the MTX-4, I can't pass up on that low price. For now I plan on getting both front and rear Universals, one piece engine mount and a thicker rear tower. Now I really like Skyline's aftermarket parts. Can anybody tell me if any of the listed parts helps performance any or is it just useless "bling" that just adds weight and $$.

http://murnanmodified.com/index.php?cPath=22
Skyline Products



1. Alum Brake Arm for MTX-4 $10.00
2. Alum Brake Bracket for MTX-4 $15.00 XXXX
3. Alum Engine Brace for MTX-4 $10.00
4. Alum Front Bulkhead Cover $16.00
5. Alum Front Upper Roll Center mount for MTX-4 (1 pair) $20.00
6. Alum Mid Bearing Block for MTX-4 $15.00
7. Alum Rear Sway Bar Holders MT-MTX-408 Price $10.00


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I'm afraid that all those items are "Bling"
If you are after some items that can help in the performance side,
Number 1 would have to be the Kawahara blade type swaybar
2 Hollow 2 speed shaft ( lighter)
Titanium pillow balls and turnbuckles (Lighter)
Carbon side brace couldn't hurt
I also run a 3 racing light weight flywheel.
4 mm chassis could also be on the list if you run on a high bite track
other than these along with the ali wheel hexes, 4mm shock tower and uni's there isn't anything needed.
With all these items you will most likely be under weight for bigger racing events
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I'm afraid that all those items are "Bling"
If you are after some items that can help in the performance side,
Number 1 would have to be the Kawahara blade type swaybar
2 Hollow 2 speed shaft ( lighter)
Titanium pillow balls and turnbuckles (Lighter)
Carbon side brace couldn't hurt
I also run a 3 racing light weight flywheel.
4 mm chassis could also be on the list if you run on a high bite track
other than these along with the ali wheel hexes, 4mm shock tower and uni's there isn't anything needed.
With all these items you will most likely be under weight for bigger racing events
CAn someone help me, what is this part meant to do and where on the car. Is for RRR called Side Stiffener. Thanks.
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CAn someone help me, what is this part meant to do and where on the car. Is for RRR called Side Stiffener. Thanks.
If it is the same type as the Mtx4 part it links the rear bulkhead to the rear of the top deck.
It runs over the top of the clutch assembly and basicly stiffens the chassis across that area where the motor is mounted
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Yes and it an option for the plastic stiffener
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Yes and it an option for the plastic stiffener
Thanks guys, does it actually help anything ...sorry a bit naive here
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Yes and it an option for the plastic stiffener
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