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Old 01-24-2007, 01:32 AM   #16
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hi, the rrr wce and rrr evo price are the same, do wce needs more upgrade or the evo?

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hi, the rrr wce and rrr evo price are the same, do wce needs more upgrade or the evo?

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There are basically 4 RRR models:

RRR -> RRR Evo

RRR WCE -> RRR Evo WCE

My RRR Web site compares the RRR WCE with the RRR Evo in the "Kit Info" section. As you will see, the WCE has a lot more upgrades - but certain parts of the Evo are just different from the RRR or RRR WCE. Best thing to do, is to go through the manuals and compare the differences for yourself.

Once the English RRR Evo WCE manual is posted on the Kyosho site, I'll add it to the comparison chart.
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Old 01-24-2007, 02:02 AM   #18
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i would reccomend the evo over the rrr wce cause the shock springs and bodies are much better in the evo than the wce. also in the evo the main shaft is easier to pull apart and the brake pulley doesn't wear out like the plastic one did on the wce.

Really?

The RRR WCE didnt have a plastic one. It was alloy.
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Really?

The RRR WCE didnt have a plastic one. It was alloy.
You are correct. The RRR WCE has an alloy brake pulley.
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You are correct. The RRR WCE has an alloy brake pulley.

No it does not.....the RRR WCE has a plastic pulley that connects to the shaft via a pin...the brake adapter is metal....

By the way RRR EVO WCE that I have completed feels very nice....the shocks are silky smooth as others have stated....the weight of the car feels like its proportinally balanced better then the RRR...the car will see the track for the first time at the W-Nats...
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There are basically 4 RRR models:

RRR -> RRR Evo

RRR WCE -> RRR Evo WCE

My RRR Web site compares the RRR WCE with the RRR Evo in the "Kit Info" section. As you will see, the WCE has a lot more upgrades - but certain parts of the Evo are just different from the RRR or RRR WCE. Best thing to do, is to go through the manuals and compare the differences for yourself.

Once the English RRR Evo WCE manual is posted on the Kyosho site, I'll add it to the comparison chart.
I think you have the RRR Evo and RRR WCE backwards, I think it goes:

31257 = V-One RRR
31258 = V-One RRR WC
31259 = V-One RRR EVO
31260 = V-One RRR EVO WC

Which is why I think someone commented the EVO has some better things than the WC.
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best to just get the latest model you'll be set
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I think you have the RRR Evo and RRR WCE backwards, I think it goes:

31257 = V-One RRR
31258 = V-One RRR WC
31259 = V-One RRR EVO
31260 = V-One RRR EVO WC

Which is why I think someone commented the EVO has some better things than the WC.

That is correct....the way you have laid it out.....
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I think you have the RRR Evo and RRR WCE backwards, I think it goes:

31257 = V-One RRR
31258 = V-One RRR WC
31259 = V-One RRR EVO
31260 = V-One RRR EVO WC

Which is why I think someone commented the EVO has some better things than the WC.
Backwards?

The Evo is an evolutoin of the RRR. Like the RRR, it has dog bones, two piece engine mount and a bunch of other plastic parts - but it does have some new parts and the servo layout is different.

The WCE has all the upgrades that the RRR and Evo are missing.

Evo WCE has the evo parts plus the WCE upgrades.

That's what I meant...
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No it does not.....the RRR WCE has a plastic pulley that connects to the shaft via a pin...the brake adapter is metal....
You're right Robert. The WCE has a metal brake adapter and plastic pulley. When someone referred to "brake pulley" in the context above, I thought they meant the brake adapter on the WCE. The brake adapter and pulley on the Evo is the same part!

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By the way RRR EVO WCE that I have completed feels very nice....the shocks are silky smooth as others have stated....the weight of the car feels like its proportionally balanced better then the RRR...the car will see the track for the first time at the W-Nats...
Hey Robert, I got dibs on an interview with you after the W-Nats regarding the car. Then you can break it all down for us. Make sure you keep good notes.
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Backwards?

The Evo is an evolutoin of the RRR. Like the RRR, it has dog bones, two piece engine mount and a bunch of other plastic parts - but it does have some new parts and the servo layout is different.

The WCE has all the upgrades that the RRR and Evo are missing.

Evo WCE has the evo parts plus the WCE upgrades.

That's what I meant...
I see what you meant, I was just going by kit part #'s. I've been trying to sort this whole thing out for awhile to determine which kit to get. I was assuming each release had everything the previous model release did and added more parts, but thats not correct.

So then in your opinion, which kit if you couldn't afford the latest EVO WCE, is closest? The RRR- EVO or RRR- WC.
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Whats a good price for the WCE EVO version?
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If you get the RRR WCE, you don't have to upgrade anything. You can race it "as is".

If you get the Evo, at a minimum, you would have to purchase front and rear universals. I would highly recommend getting the one-piece engine mount as well.

As your budget allows, you can always upgrade the Evo to the Evo WCE spec. And you could always covert your WCE into a Evo WCE as well.

Bottom line is, all the parts are interchangeable between all four cars.
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is 439.99 a good price for an evo WCE RRR?
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You're right Robert. The WCE has a metal brake adapter and plastic pulley. When someone referred to "brake pulley" in the context above, I thought they meant the brake adapter on the WCE. The brake adapter and pulley on the Evo is the same part!


Hey Robert, I got dibs on an interview with you after the W-Nats regarding the car. Then you can break it all down for us. Make sure you keep good notes.

No problem will do that..
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