Xray NT1
#4023
I drove the car yesterday for the first time...
It was pretty much stock setup with 16/22 pinions,58/53 spurs, Novarossi plus 12-3C with short nova header skyline pipe. The track used to have very high traction, but hasnt used for a long time, so it was dirty and low traction.
After doing the 2 speed and clutch stuff, First thing I realised with this car was very quick steering input and mid corner oversteer compared to mugen. Actually it was too much for me, so I changed to a solid front and reduced my epa. With these changes, I got a car more drivable, but not enough. There was a lot of wheelspin out of the corners. Ill try 17t pinion next time.
After about 5 tanks, it had a problem and I came into pits. I saw the front CVD broken and flown away with the multidiff outdrive As I said, the track was very dirty, so I think little rocks broke it. I have a universal shaft from mtx4, have one of you ever tried that into nt1? I mean the shaft only, not the part that goes into the upright. Would it be a problem?
Looking forward to try more setups before the nationals
Btw, +1 on mugen starterbox
It was pretty much stock setup with 16/22 pinions,58/53 spurs, Novarossi plus 12-3C with short nova header skyline pipe. The track used to have very high traction, but hasnt used for a long time, so it was dirty and low traction.
After doing the 2 speed and clutch stuff, First thing I realised with this car was very quick steering input and mid corner oversteer compared to mugen. Actually it was too much for me, so I changed to a solid front and reduced my epa. With these changes, I got a car more drivable, but not enough. There was a lot of wheelspin out of the corners. Ill try 17t pinion next time.
After about 5 tanks, it had a problem and I came into pits. I saw the front CVD broken and flown away with the multidiff outdrive As I said, the track was very dirty, so I think little rocks broke it. I have a universal shaft from mtx4, have one of you ever tried that into nt1? I mean the shaft only, not the part that goes into the upright. Would it be a problem?
Looking forward to try more setups before the nationals
Btw, +1 on mugen starterbox
#4024
Tech Regular
#4025
1st Gear Keeps stripping
Guys over the weekend I stripped 5 gears, sometimes even before the race starts a gear strips
2 weeks before I lost 6 gears and every time I have rebuilt my transmission and gear mesh.
Today I changed my clutch bell and all my pinions to brand new ones, placed my car on the box starter and let it run through 1 tank on the box and the 1st gear yet again began to chip, and this was on the box starter, what gives ??
It is really becoming expensive now when it strips on my box starter.
Here are some pics from todays box run and gear mesh..
HELP HELP !!!
2 weeks before I lost 6 gears and every time I have rebuilt my transmission and gear mesh.
Today I changed my clutch bell and all my pinions to brand new ones, placed my car on the box starter and let it run through 1 tank on the box and the 1st gear yet again began to chip, and this was on the box starter, what gives ??
It is really becoming expensive now when it strips on my box starter.
Here are some pics from todays box run and gear mesh..
HELP HELP !!!
#4026
1st Gear Keeps stripping
Guys over the weekend I stripped 5 gears, sometimes even before the race starts a gear strips
2 weeks before I lost 6 gears and every time I have rebuilt my transmission and gear mesh.
Today I changed my clutch bell and all my pinions to brand new ones, placed my car on the box starter and let it run through 1 tank on the box and the 1st gear yet again began to chip, and this was on the box starter, what gives ??
It is really becoming expensive now when it strips on my box starter.
Here are some pics from today's box run and gear mesh..
HELP HELP !!!
2 weeks before I lost 6 gears and every time I have rebuilt my transmission and gear mesh.
Today I changed my clutch bell and all my pinions to brand new ones, placed my car on the box starter and let it run through 1 tank on the box and the 1st gear yet again began to chip, and this was on the box starter, what gives ??
It is really becoming expensive now when it strips on my box starter.
Here are some pics from today's box run and gear mesh..
HELP HELP !!!
#4027
gidday jelayne
mate first i would check your bearinngs on the two spead shaft and the bearing in your clutch bell
also check the travel on the throttle servo as to much end play will pull on the carby and move the your gear mesh..
just check to make shore the engine is square to the engine mounts as you can get second gear to mesh up perfectly but end up with to much of a cap on the first gear...
also how old your engine the front bearings not shot is it????
mate first i would check your bearinngs on the two spead shaft and the bearing in your clutch bell
also check the travel on the throttle servo as to much end play will pull on the carby and move the your gear mesh..
just check to make shore the engine is square to the engine mounts as you can get second gear to mesh up perfectly but end up with to much of a cap on the first gear...
also how old your engine the front bearings not shot is it????
#4028
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
i dont run a NT1 i got a mugen but what might be causing it is either a broken engine mount, to much end play on the Clutch bell and the 1st gear spur is hitting the 2nd gear pinion. You might have a bent layshaft, there might be to much of a gap between the shoe in ur 2speed and the housing, also on breaking check that the engine wont move. also the way you mounted the gears, they might not be straight on the housing.
Mitchell
Mitchell
#4029
i had the same problem on the first nt1 and what finally fixed it was replaceing the one way bearing assembly on the 2 speed. the bearing would bind up
#4030
Tech Regular
Play in the Clutch bell..
Hi Guys,
I've been running the NT1 for a while now, i like the car a lot. One thing i always have trouble with is the clutch. It just doesn't seem to be ok. Setting it is fine, so it engages pretty good but not as good as i want. This seems to because of some play on the clutch bell and the bearings. Anybody noticed this too, the small bearing in front of the clutch always has some play. How did you guys removed that?
Regards,
Ruben
I've been running the NT1 for a while now, i like the car a lot. One thing i always have trouble with is the clutch. It just doesn't seem to be ok. Setting it is fine, so it engages pretty good but not as good as i want. This seems to because of some play on the clutch bell and the bearings. Anybody noticed this too, the small bearing in front of the clutch always has some play. How did you guys removed that?
Regards,
Ruben
#4031
Tech Elite
iTrader: (74)
Hi Guys,
I've been running the NT1 for a while now, i like the car a lot. One thing i always have trouble with is the clutch. It just doesn't seem to be ok. Setting it is fine, so it engages pretty good but not as good as i want. This seems to because of some play on the clutch bell and the bearings. Anybody noticed this too, the small bearing in front of the clutch always has some play. How did you guys removed that?
Regards,
Ruben
I've been running the NT1 for a while now, i like the car a lot. One thing i always have trouble with is the clutch. It just doesn't seem to be ok. Setting it is fine, so it engages pretty good but not as good as i want. This seems to because of some play on the clutch bell and the bearings. Anybody noticed this too, the small bearing in front of the clutch always has some play. How did you guys removed that?
Regards,
Ruben
cheers
#4032
[QUOTE=_cyclops_;5651320]Hi Guys,
I've been running the NT1 for a while now, i like the car a lot. One thing i always have trouble with is the clutch. It just doesn't seem to be ok. Setting it is fine, so it engages pretty good but not as good as i want. This seems to because of some play on the clutch bell and the bearings. Anybody noticed this too, the small bearing in front of the clutch always has some play. How did you guys removed that?
Regards,
Ruben[/QUOTE
Also be sure you havnt accidently swapped your thrust race holder for another brand, or swapped your thrust race for another brand. We accidently did this and the other thrust race had a slightly bigger Inside diamater,,causing wobbble,, as mentioned also, the race holder of some other brands is the incorrect size. To double check, remove the holder and check the fit of the bearing AND the thrust race on the holder. If this is all OK then I`LL bet you have the thrust racr on backwards,, as mentioned above. Remember the large hole of the thrust race goes toward the fly wheel. Let us know how you get on. As for set up, the XRAY clutch is superb once you get it right. We use the hard spring with .8-1mm of compression and .5-.6 clutch gap with .1 end play. If you use this set-up you should be fine.
I've been running the NT1 for a while now, i like the car a lot. One thing i always have trouble with is the clutch. It just doesn't seem to be ok. Setting it is fine, so it engages pretty good but not as good as i want. This seems to because of some play on the clutch bell and the bearings. Anybody noticed this too, the small bearing in front of the clutch always has some play. How did you guys removed that?
Regards,
Ruben[/QUOTE
Also be sure you havnt accidently swapped your thrust race holder for another brand, or swapped your thrust race for another brand. We accidently did this and the other thrust race had a slightly bigger Inside diamater,,causing wobbble,, as mentioned also, the race holder of some other brands is the incorrect size. To double check, remove the holder and check the fit of the bearing AND the thrust race on the holder. If this is all OK then I`LL bet you have the thrust racr on backwards,, as mentioned above. Remember the large hole of the thrust race goes toward the fly wheel. Let us know how you get on. As for set up, the XRAY clutch is superb once you get it right. We use the hard spring with .8-1mm of compression and .5-.6 clutch gap with .1 end play. If you use this set-up you should be fine.
#4033
Stripping gears
Guys over the weekend I stripped 5 gears, sometimes even before the race starts a gear strips
2 weeks before I lost 6 gears and every time I have rebuilt my transmission and gear mesh.
Today I changed my clutch bell and all my pinions to brand new ones, placed my car on the box starter and let it run through 1 tank on the box and the 1st gear yet again began to chip, and this was on the box starter, what gives ??
It is really becoming expensive now when it strips on my box starter.
Here are some pics from today's box run and gear mesh..
HELP HELP !!!
2 weeks before I lost 6 gears and every time I have rebuilt my transmission and gear mesh.
Today I changed my clutch bell and all my pinions to brand new ones, placed my car on the box starter and let it run through 1 tank on the box and the 1st gear yet again began to chip, and this was on the box starter, what gives ??
It is really becoming expensive now when it strips on my box starter.
Here are some pics from today's box run and gear mesh..
HELP HELP !!!
If its not the clutch bearing , double check the bearing on the lay-shaft behind the Spur gears. I have actually seen the bulkhead melted from bearing siezure and the bearing was flogging around in the bulk-head! Needless to say this was causing the spurs to strip almost instantly. Also check your engine mount bolts are tight,, Let us know how you get on.
In an estimated 5000+ laps we have only ever stripped 2 gears. One from crap on the track and the other was the second gear we melted from being to tight a mesh!
#4034
Broken Drive Shaft
I drove the car yesterday for the first time...
It was pretty much stock setup with 16/22 pinions,58/53 spurs, Novarossi plus 12-3C with short nova header skyline pipe. The track used to have very high traction, but hasnt used for a long time, so it was dirty and low traction.
After doing the 2 speed and clutch stuff, First thing I realised with this car was very quick steering input and mid corner oversteer compared to mugen. Actually it was too much for me, so I changed to a solid front and reduced my epa. With these changes, I got a car more drivable, but not enough. There was a lot of wheelspin out of the corners. Ill try 17t pinion next time.
After about 5 tanks, it had a problem and I came into pits. I saw the front CVD broken and flown away with the multidiff outdrive As I said, the track was very dirty, so I think little rocks broke it. I have a universal shaft from mtx4, have one of you ever tried that into nt1? I mean the shaft only, not the part that goes into the upright. Would it be a problem?
Looking forward to try more setups before the nationals
Btw, +1 on mugen starterbox
It was pretty much stock setup with 16/22 pinions,58/53 spurs, Novarossi plus 12-3C with short nova header skyline pipe. The track used to have very high traction, but hasnt used for a long time, so it was dirty and low traction.
After doing the 2 speed and clutch stuff, First thing I realised with this car was very quick steering input and mid corner oversteer compared to mugen. Actually it was too much for me, so I changed to a solid front and reduced my epa. With these changes, I got a car more drivable, but not enough. There was a lot of wheelspin out of the corners. Ill try 17t pinion next time.
After about 5 tanks, it had a problem and I came into pits. I saw the front CVD broken and flown away with the multidiff outdrive As I said, the track was very dirty, so I think little rocks broke it. I have a universal shaft from mtx4, have one of you ever tried that into nt1? I mean the shaft only, not the part that goes into the upright. Would it be a problem?
Looking forward to try more setups before the nationals
Btw, +1 on mugen starterbox
#4035
As I said, I reduced my epa to %80 from 25 degree on setup station. The breakage happened after that.
The break point isnt the step you mentioned. Its closer to wheel axle.
Anyway... I put mugen shaft, and it fits nice.
The break point isnt the step you mentioned. Its closer to wheel axle.
Anyway... I put mugen shaft, and it fits nice.