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Old 11-29-2006, 11:13 PM   #16
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I like mine with a little from both camps..



FPV F6 Typhoon

4-litre turbo-charged, intercooled, 24-valve double overhead cam six produces its maximum power of 270kW at 5250 rpm. However, the real story is torque. All 550Nm is on tap from just 2000 rpm and remaining constant all the way through to 4250 rpm.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:01 AM   #17
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This is a debate that will never end. Can of worms is a good name for this. I used to be all about american muscle, and I drag race a big block powered Nova station wagon that frequents the 9.90 time zone, but it is not a street car by any stretch of the imagination. True, the engine makes almost 680 horses and 630 ft/lbs of torque, and idles at a lopey 900 rpm, and could be used on the street if I had Donald Trumps walkin around money. I am trying to be one of those guys who respect all aspects of the hot rodding hobby. Import/tuner cars are the next wave people, we have to embrace them. That being said, it would be a lot easier to embrace them if they were a little more accepting of where the muscle car crowd has come from. We are not all that different, actually. We all like going fast, making horsepower, looking good, etc. etc. Also, the new crowd doesn't have an over-abundance of gasoline and v-8 engines to play with either. Insurance companies have gotten wise, a looooong time ago, these guys found a way around it. I have all kinds of respect for the tuner crowd, it is just sometimes they rub me the wrong way and that isn't every one, just the closed minded ones who think that their shizzle don't stink, and what they are doing hasn't been done before. It has fellas, in the late sixties and the early seventies, by your dads, uncles, co-workers, etc. Tuners are here to stay, and deserve a place in the hot rodding hobby.
Muscle cars aren't dead, it is just getting increasingly hard to find good material, and the barret-jackson asshats who are going through their midlife crisis are snatching up all the really primo old iron. I have kicked around the idea of finding a decent 240Z hatch and build up a Quad 4 gm motor and see what that could do, that is of course after I get my El Camino done, which, by the way I don't need a mullet to drive, thank you very much! I think we should all just get along, it could benefit the hobby greatly, and who knows, the new guys might learn a thing or two from the old fogies, and vice versa.
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Sparksy, bitchin ride!

Is that a Holden? Nice! classy!
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:21 AM   #19
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Sparksy, bitchin ride!

Is that a Holden? Nice! classy!
nah its the only ford you could consider owning
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:05 AM   #20
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Roger, sorry if I put this in the wrong area, it was placed here because its a continuation of an off topic discussion that the 'nitro on road' group was involved in.
Thanks for the credits...

But, I didn't really start the discussion to talk about muscle cars, I was talking about environmental things, like fuel consumption, exhaust gasses, and thus the polution of the planet.....
What does a gallon of gasoline cost you?....
It will cost me 6.47 Dollar.... (Dollar vs Euro = 1.31)
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Thanks for the credits...

But, I didn't really start the discussion to talk about muscle cars, I was talking about environmental things, like fuel consumption, exhaust gasses, and thus the polution of the planet.....
What does a gallon of gasoline cost you?....
It will cost me 6.47 Dollar.... (Dollar vs Euro = 1.31)

M7H, what car do you drive?
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:35 AM   #22
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Old 11-30-2006, 07:07 AM   #23
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heres a couple more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSsvx6uFZmY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn6uriBoY98
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-xQU...elated&search=

Arab drifting (just for shits and giggles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTGXMgh-qw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm-0I...elated&search=



and if you woundering if these crazy fuckers eva crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1D1bOiOYY0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=fPYZKzVuwpE
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Old 11-30-2006, 07:08 AM   #24
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well, I think I've identified the problem.



I'm totally kidding, M7H. That is a nice car and I'm sure you get to spend a lot more money on your RC addiction due to amazing gas mileage.

I think Dave hit the nail on the head with his comment and I agree that this is a debate that will never end...

Until we stop running internal combustion engines on the roads.

I currently drive a 1997 Honda Accord and a 2006 Mazda 3 hatchback, both get decent gas mileage and are comfortable cars to travel in.

When I talk about the Joys of american muscle, I dont think about gas mileage. I had a 1970 'stang that got 6 miles per gallon and that was the funnest thing I've ever driven. It wasn't economically sound, it didn't handle well in the turns and there were plenty of cars on the roads that could eat its lunch (not too many, though )

Again, it's not all about numbers, it's about what you like to drive and how you feel while you drive it.







p.s. american muscle rules.
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and if you woundering if these crazy fuckers eva crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1D1bOiOYY0
OMFG!!! FINALLY !!!

I seriously WAS wondering if those crazy fawkers ever crashed. That is hilarious.
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I would take any one of these over a WRX...and I had a WRX in 2002.

I want!!

How do you get 27MPG??? What are you tuning with?? I find it hard to believe...Well I guess 6th gear and stay out of the turbo..maybe.
Cobb Pro tune, and stay off the turbo.
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well, I think I've identified the problem.
Yep, you did....

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I'm totally kidding, M7H. That is a nice car and I'm sure you get to spend a lot more money on your RC addiction due to amazing gas mileage.
What is important in live.....
It's quite a big car for European standards, so plenty of room for the kids I have, but most important, the stuff I need to bring to the track........

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p.s. american muscle rules.
I agree, but I never wanted to discuss the "joy" factor.......
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OMFG!!! FINALLY !!!

I seriously WAS wondering if those crazy fawkers ever crashed. That is hilarious.
They are crazy.....
there goes your parked car.......
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Anyone want to race? The bubble wrap on the front helps me pull 11's
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Anyone want to race? The bubble wrap on the front helps me pull 11's
ROFLMAO

sure!

let me paint my new ground efx kit first though, k?
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