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Old 11-07-2006, 07:41 PM   #1
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Default Ceramic Ball Bearings

guys, i was thinking about changing all my G4S ball bearings to ceramic ball bearings, is it advisable to get them changed as they are not cheap at all.

- how better would the car perform?
- what brand of ceramic bearings is good?
- how much estimate it cost to change it for the whole G4S?
- how long would ceramic bearing last, compared to ball bearings?
- is it advisable to change?

i have revied Boca Ceramic ball bearings, and have a hard time finding the right series, they have 3 types of Ceramic :
- Si3N4 (temp 2552oF)
- AL203 (3180oF)
- Zr02 (1800oF)

then they have different series :
- Ceramic Premium
- Ceramic Lightning Econo
- Ceramic Lightning Ultra Seal
- Ceramic Lightning Yellow Seal

wah, really dun know which one to buy. any idea?
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:25 PM   #2
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for normal amateur drivers like me i think not worth it...better improve our driving and car setups ... just my 2cents
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For me. I'm would put them in the clutch bell only; just for the heat build-up. My skills don't warrant these anywhere else.
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:19 PM   #4
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hmm, true also, but last time i tried to roll my frenz MTX4 on the track, wow, its so smooth. but i really wonder would it make a difference in high speed rotation. wat u think? i would also consider only changing the rear engine ceramic to see the difference 1st.
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Old 11-07-2006, 10:58 PM   #5
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Ceramic bearing set will cost more than your G4
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:25 AM   #6
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3 years ago i replaced the original serpent steel ball bearings for ceramic's from boca.
just all the bearings except the 2 for the clutch, thos are stand still for the most of the time
By that time i was driving the 950(and R) and nowadays i have the same bearings in my 966.
after using them 3 years they get better and better!
I managed to ruin only 2 of them, from the 2 speed axle.

After using them more than 3 years without problems I think there certainly worth there money!!
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:54 AM   #7
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If you want better bearings take care of your stock ones.

Clean the grease oil and if you want run something through them to free them up then oil. Do it after every couple race meets and you'll never have any problems.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:44 AM   #8
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I definitely agree with hav_lova. This year I started breaking down my car after every 2 to 3 weekend runs to check for worn/ damaged parts and cleaning my (stock) bearings rigorously and just that made me a more consistent driver week to week. Also, the transmission was just as smoothe as my friends car who went out and bought Ceramic bearings. Don't waste your money unless you make money racing these cars.

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Old 11-10-2006, 05:25 PM   #9
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guys, how do u clean the bearing? last time i place them in a small plastic container, fill it half with engine oil and shake it, with the plastic seal removed, but then after cleaning some bearings were damaged. so from that onwards, i dare not remove the seals, just rubbed with cloth, then put a few drops of bearing oils on the seal and spin it.
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I want to know too, I used to remove rubber seal and clean the bearing but this will eventually destroy the seal.
how do people clean their bearings, will sonic shaker helps ?
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I remove the seals on both sides of my bearings, and either spray them out with brake cleaner or soak them over night in shellite. just dont have any flames etc near the shellite oil, make sure the rubber covers are straight and put them back on.
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I use a RPM bearing blaster.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEV92&P=7
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i bought 12 ceramic hybrid bearings for my S960
they run veeeery smooth
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i bought 12 ceramic hybrid bearings for my S960
they run veeeery smooth
How do you clean your ceramic bearings?

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Denaturated alcohol and then reoil with bearingoil..
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