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Old 07-25-2006, 07:04 PM   #1
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Default Newbie! MTX4 or RRR?

Which one is better?

When did they release?

Which one is easier to work on?

Which one is more suitable for small and tech. track?

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I dont own either of these so I dont really know the answer to your question. I have driven the RRR on a small high speed and slightly technical track. The only other higher end on-road car that I have driven is my R40. The RRR has similar handling as my r40 does but it powers out of the corners a lot better. Both cars, the mtx4 and the rrr are probably equal enough were it mostly depends on the driver and the set-up. I think your decision should depend on what car your lhs carries the most parts for.
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Which one is better?

When did they release?

Which one is easier to work on?

Which one is more suitable for small and tech. track?

Thanks
RRR Evo, just released within the month.

Never seen the MTX4 in person.

From what a few people said - RRR. The box stock set-up is a wonderful baseline and you could probably leave the car alone if you had to, just tune with tires, etc.

But keep in mind when buying of these these cars you will need a setup fixture, spare parts, spare pipes, spare engine, tires, etc. This is, of course, if you race, but a $330 car can turn into $1,000 with just a few purchases to make the car run. There is the G4S RTR that will get you going for $389 or something along those lines.
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Old 07-25-2006, 11:08 PM   #4
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I have build V-ONE RRR, but never run it. I also look MTX-4 in person for almost an hour. I was comparing both cars in detail by their parts made qualities. I can say MTX-4 is way much better.
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I have build V-ONE RRR, but never run it. I also look MTX-4 in person for almost an hour. I was comparing both cars in detail by their parts made qualities. I can say MTX-4 is way much better.
In my home track Kyosho RRR gets higher frequency winning a race and also DNF due to stripping 2nd spur gears.

I prefer MTX4 for the best combination of performance, durability and easy to work on.
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Old 07-25-2006, 11:45 PM   #6
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In my home track Kyosho RRR gets higher frequency winning a race and also DNF due to stripping 2nd spur gears.

I prefer MTX4 for the best combination of performance, durability and easy to work on.

Agree
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wat ever has the best parts support, personally i like the MTX4 better the Mugen has won the nationals in 5 years in a row
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technology has trickled down guys. in my honest opinion, all the cars (kyo, mug, ser) all are GREAT. like awesome. its really now just a desicion of what company youd like to buy from.

yes ive driven all 3.
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I used to be strickly HPI and ran the R40.
But I recently converged over the the MTX-4 and absolutely love it.
hands down its certainly more durable than the R40.
There are many hop-ups for it too.
Depending on where you live stroll over to your LHS and have them assist you in your final decision...i know it was mentioned earlier but it makes a big difference if your LHS can get you the parts you need fast.

Its an awesome car...superbly engineered front to rear.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:41 AM   #10
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Eventhough I'm a Kyosho driver, I'll make unbiased comments as much as I can....

Both are good cars in capable hands!

Kyosho has recently solved the spur stripping problem with new improved materials for all of their spur gears. As for stripping spurs, the MTX4 was and is having the same problem as well, so it isn't isolated to the K car. One of my friend stripped the spurs on his MTX4 at the Byron's race recently while leading the race.

I have a bag full of replacement parts and I haven't needed to replace any parts very often this year. Yes, I have repalced the usual belts, pulleys because of wear and tear, but that's normal.

Just "looking" at a car on the bench doesn't necessary give you an idea how durable a car actually is, unless you actually run it and crash it. I have got to say that I have pushed my RRR hard this year so far, I have hit corners which have a 100lb weight on it hard. So far (knock on wood), no broken arms, shocks, knuckles! And when you go fast, you hit stuff hard!

Here's my advice for you. If you have good experience with setup and familiar with gas sedan racing, go with whatever cars. If you fear of struggling a bit, go with the car that the majority of the local racers run so you have have setup and parts support. Once you gain some of that gas sedan experience, you should have no problem running a car that isn't run by many in your area.

As for Kyosho brand. Many hobby shops carry some kind of Kyosho products, whether it's airplane, offroad stuff, diecast. Any of those hobby shops can order you RRR parts. Also Kyosho America has an online shop as well where you can buy direct!

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In my home track Kyosho RRR gets higher frequency winning a race and also DNF due to stripping 2nd spur gears.

I prefer MTX4 for the best combination of performance, durability and easy to work on.
thought was MTX-4 who is facing the stripping Spur , but not RRR ..

maybe you can refer to the posting from the MTX4 thread and see yourself
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Eventhough I'm a Kyosho driver, I'll make unbiased comments as much as I can....

Both are good cars in capable hands!

Kyosho has recently solved the spur stripping problem with new improved materials for all of their spur gears. As for stripping spurs, the MTX4 was and is having the same problem as well, so it isn't isolated to the K car. One of my friend stripped the spurs on his MTX4 at the Byron's race recently while leading the race.

I have a bag full of replacement parts and I haven't needed to replace any parts very often this year. Yes, I have repalced the usual belts, pulleys because of wear and tear, but that's normal.

Just "looking" at a car on the bench doesn't necessary give you an idea how durable a car actually is, unless you actually run it and crash it. I have got to say that I have pushed my RRR hard this year so far, I have hit corners which have a 100lb weight on it hard. So far (knock on wood), no broken arms, shocks, knuckles! And when you go fast, you hit stuff hard!

Here's my advice for you. If you have good experience with setup and familiar with gas sedan racing, go with whatever cars. If you fear of struggling a bit, go with the car that the majority of the local racers run so you have have setup and parts support. Once you gain some of that gas sedan experience, you should have no problem running a car that isn't run by many in your area.

As for Kyosho brand. Many hobby shops carry some kind of Kyosho products, whether it's airplane, offroad stuff, diecast. Any of those hobby shops can order you RRR parts. Also Kyosho America has an online shop as well where you can buy direct!

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i agree... nicely said!

Kyosho has been very established company. They were the first ones to adapt oil filled shocks, if im not mistaken.

Both cars are good though.... go to your local track and see observed what people are using. you can try getting a RTR to start out. then once you've seen the best drivers with their cars in the track after some time racing, that' would be a good time to choose which car you want to drive next.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:57 AM   #13
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since my v1r , v1rr i had never (ever) experienced stripping my 1st and 2nd gear spur. kyosho has some good materials in their parts.
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I have seen the gears stripped on both cars. Half of the time I think that it is from pour set up and 25% from picking up a rock. The last 25% not sure what caused it maybe worn pinion gears or something but I don't think that either car has a gear problem.

On the original question, I run a MTX-4 so take it as you want to. I have seen a 100% team Kyosho driver that switched to Mugen because he was having problems finishing the mains with the RRR. He is also a 100% team Mugen driver now.
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how come no one is talking about the serpent 720. i have been hearing good things about this car, and it won this years nationals--- not the mugen. just curious what others think about it.
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