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Old 06-01-2003, 08:10 AM   #1381
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Hmmm . . . you're being a bit unnecessary here, Top Gun.

By the way, there are two "m's" in "commercialized".
And if Dennis makes a few dollars out of them, then you're strictly correct, it's commercial.
And "toy" . . . gee, there all toys.

I don't know Dennis, personally, but there seems to be a lot of people here that speak highly of his work.
. . . and I haven't seen a lot of people running your engines.

. . so I won't ask you "why", but I will ask you to put one of your engines up against this "commercialised toy".
Given that I'm on the other side of the planet, I would like to call for volunteers to witness this event - any takers, please?
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By saying i'm here bit unnecessary you put me in deffensive position ,so I won't make any coments or statments on it. Forrume is for everybody and as long as somebody is not breaking civil ways of it's rools-can be say whatever! Some people says highely about his work some not! I don't say anything against him, but whatever on the picture-I vot for paper weight! It is my personal opinion and I stay there. I saw only one picture of his work and I personaly don't like what was done there! Can I have my personal opinion?
About the competion of engines-There will be day when it is gonna happened and you will be personaly invated on it. So let's be patient-no rush!
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Old 06-01-2003, 08:33 AM   #1382
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By saying i'm here bit unnecessary you put me in deffensive position ,so I won't make any coments or statments on it. Forrume is for everybody and as long as somebody is not breaking civil ways of it's rools-can be say whatever! Some people says highely about his work some not! I don't say anything against him, but whatever on the picture-I vot for paper weight! It is my personal opinion and I stay there. I saw only one picture of his work and I personaly don't like what was done there! Can I have my personal opinion?
About the competion of engines-There will be day when it is gonna happened and you will be personaly invated on it. So let's be patient-no rush!
I don't intend to enter into a debate, and if you now feel you are in a defensive position, then you have understood my point . . . good.

It appears that Dennis has accepted the challenge and now the ball is in your court. To paraphrase Dennis' words "bring it to the track and show us"
You have said many things and the time for patience is at an end. Name the time and place, please.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how is a engine tuner competition supposed to work? Giving your enignes to guys that are already winning the races doesn't mean much other than the guys who were fast before they ran a certain engine were still fast afterwards. I could go hack up an engine and if I could somehow convince cyrul to run it I'm sure he'd blow away any richey or top gunn 777 sponsored driver. I could then claim my engine lays down awesome power allowing victory but....

Unless you take the same driver, the same day, and run both the engines in the same car comparing laptimes over several runs I don't see how such a competition amounts to more than a hill of beans. My. 02.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how is a engine tuner competition supposed to work? Giving your enignes to guys that are already winning the races doesn't mean much other than the guys who were fast before they ran a certain engine were still fast afterwards. I could go hack up an engine and if I could somehow convince cyrul to run it I'm sure he'd blow away any richey or top gunn 777 sponsored driver. I could then claim my engine lays down awesome power allowing victory but....

Unless you take the same driver, the same day, and run both the engines in the same car comparing laptimes over several runs I don't see how such a competition amounts to more than a hill of beans. My. 02.
What you say is true.
The only bit you missing is that you haven't bagged the other tuners engine and then failed to produce a better one yourself.
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Old 06-01-2003, 09:12 AM   #1385
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I don't intend to enter into a debate, and if you now feel you are in a defensive position, then you have understood my point . . . good.

It appears that Dennis has accepted the challenge and now the ball is in your court. To paraphrase Dennis' words "bring it to the track and show us"
You have said many things and the time for patience is at an end. Name the time and place, please.
I will, when the right time will come! No sooner then that! Keep your patient!
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Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how is a engine tuner competition supposed to work? Giving your enignes to guys that are already winning the races doesn't mean much other than the guys who were fast before they ran a certain engine were still fast afterwards. I could go hack up an engine and if I could somehow convince cyrul to run it I'm sure he'd blow away any richey or top gunn 777 sponsored driver. I could then claim my engine lays down awesome power allowing victory but....

Unless you take the same driver, the same day, and run both the engines in the same car comparing laptimes over several runs I don't see how such a competition amounts to more than a hill of beans. My. 02.
Man! You are right 100%! Agree with you!
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Old 06-01-2003, 09:30 AM   #1387
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Man! You are right 100%! Agree with you!
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Unless you take the same driver, the same day, and run both the engines in the same car comparing laptimes over several runs I don't see how such a competition amounts to more than a hill of beans. My. 02.
Excellent, we are agreed - the format for the competition will be as Patella outlined.
Time and place, please.
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Excellent, we are agreed - the format for the competition will be as Patella outlined.
Time and place, please.
I sad-I notify you, when I will be ready! Not ready yet!
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Can I have my personal opinion?
yes you can, but it does not make you any less of a TOOL!

None of the top drivers are going to run a sled powerplant period but they just keep comming so I let the package speak for itself.

It does just fine,

Heres a venue for you, the 2003 portugal 200MM worlds. Lets see how bad ass you guys are.

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Unless you take the same driver, the same day, and run both the engines in the same car comparing laptimes over several runs
what makes you think we don't!!! What makes you think I havent compared several of the tuner motors out there against mine using an upper level driver. Obviously some of you have no clue how much I benchmark what is out there.
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I sad-I notify you, when I will be ready! Not ready yet!
But your credibility is at stake, here?

How long could it take you to rustle up something to whoop a "Comercialized toy!" . . . three days?
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But your credibility is at stake, here?

How long could it take you to rustle up something to whoop a "Comercialized toy!" . . . three days?
I am not a profy here, I don't care about credobility! I am gonna take as much time as I wonna! Don't overpush! End of story!
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Thats evident.
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I am not a profy here, I don't care about credobility! I am gonna take as much time as I wonna! Don't overpush! End of story!
Oh, now I understand.
You either won't or can't back up your claims.

As you say . . . End of story!
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[Hi Denis gald to see your back!
i cant wait to see what your new public thing is going to be!!

take care mate and keep up the good work!!
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Perhaps we should wait and give Top Gun a chance, the fact that he is not Mr. Ritchey doesnít mean he canít do what he says. The same thing happened with Smeltz, everyone wrote him off as a copy cat and said that his engines were not up to par but now a lot of people want his engines. Instead of scaring people off we should encourage them, this way there are more choices for modified engines and we donít have to wait an eternity to get one. Monopolies are not good for us racers, and its obvious that Mr. Ritchey might not be the only game in town anymore. Like I said lets give Top Gun some time and lets see what he can do. I think that he can back up what he claims.

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