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Old 06-01-2006, 05:36 PM   #406
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Guys, I've just started using the RD Logics V one RRR 3.5mm chassis. It has a more narrow profile, which helps keep the car's ability to roll stay the same while having a stiffer, more stable platform. Although, my testing session was cut short, (throttle servo decided to retire right before the main, in warm-up, while the throttle was wide open! ) I did notice how the chassis increased my ability to put the car where I wanted it and smoothed the transitioning out. So far, I'm very happy with this chassis.
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Old 06-01-2006, 07:43 PM   #407
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The word I got from the forum, is that any V-ONE RRR 4mm chassis is a definite "do not buy".

The MTX-4 optional 4mm chassis is milled and the MTX-4 guys seem to be happy with it.

V1-RRR-WC: How thick is the K Factory chassis?

It's the same as the original (3mm) but alot stiffer. The carbon fiber inserts really do stiffen up this chassis. And I love the scratch resistant surface. Really works!!! The rear of the chassis is also thinner in some parts and just a tad bit wider towards the middle.

I think however, I will need to do some more driving to confirm what I think of it, as I only made the change over the night before racing last weekend. Then again, I am constantly making adjustments to my car in-between each weekend race that I wonder if I will ever be able to make an accurate comparison at this point. You guys are off-loading such a wealth of info, it's hard to keep up.

I am actually putting together my own "bible" from all the tips and suggestions I get on this forum.

Another point about the K-Factory chassis I really like is the smart middle mount. It makes changing front belts a WHOLE LOT quicker!!!

Not only that, the middle mount also now allows me to bolt my tune pipe brace to the bottom of the chassis and not the top deck as the original layout. (photo attached)

I myself am trying to build the ultimate RRR. So far, I am running the following upgrades:

K-Factory:

Rear Shock Brace
Rear Bottom Brace
Vented Disc & Hub
Front Spool
Front Bumper
Front Shock Brace
Hardened Hinge Pin Set
Main Chasiss
Middle Mount
Bottom Shock Cups (Aluminum)
1st & 2nd Gears

Vantage Racing:

Carbon Fiber Tune Pipe & Header

On Order:

Aluminum Break Lever
Lightened Clutch Bell

May try the K-Factory UFO clutch soon.

I am also going to try this aluminum pulley from the Pure Ten Series (Not to sure which) that I hope could replace all the 18T pulleys on my car.

18T Pulley # 695030 (18T)

Will let you know how it works out.
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Old 06-02-2006, 03:03 AM   #408
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V1-RRR-WC:

If your car is working for you the way you have it setup, then more power to you. Quite a number of people here are building their own "spec" of what works for them based on the tracks they run on, driving style and budget. There are somethings from the UE/X spec that will apply no matter what track you run on, but those are just recommendations from other racers and their individual experiences.

kidDynamite said it best, when he once told someone that no matter what anyone says, you still need to go out and test things for yourself. Even I need test and validate the UE/X spec for myself. Keep in mind, that I'm going from a few 3Racing hop-ups (throttle mixing arm, brake bracket and brake arm) to the UE/X from one race to the next. Most people have done it a one to a few pieces at a time. Add the fact that I'm changing tire brand and a new "new engine" (WASP Rev) and you've got a potential receipe for disaster. How my car is configured this weekend may not be how it's configured three or four races down the road.

If you're running a stock RRR, want to add some hop-ups and don't know where to start, the UE/X spec is a good starting point to improve the performance of your car based on what has worked for other people. Will it truly turn out to be the "ultimate" RRR? We'll have to wait and see.
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Old 06-02-2006, 05:24 AM   #409
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RMDHAWAII,

If this was a thesis for your doctorate, I would have to give you an A for the work completed so far
Thanks Doug! Lot's more work to do on it though.
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If your car is working for you the way you have it setup, then more power to you. Quite a number of people here are building their own "spec" of what works for them based on the tracks they run on, driving style and budget. There are somethings from the UE/X spec that will apply no matter what track you run on, but those are just recommendations from other racers and their individual experiences.

kidDynamite said it best, when he once told someone that no matter what anyone says, you still need to go out and test things for yourself. Even I need test and validate the UE/X spec for myself. Keep in mind, that I'm going from a few 3Racing hop-ups (throttle mixing arm, brake bracket and brake arm) to the UE/X from one race to the next. Most people have done it a one to a few pieces at a time. Add the fact that I'm changing tire brand and a new "new engine" (WASP Rev) and you've got a potential receipe for disaster. How my car is configured this weekend may not be how it's configured three or four races down the road.

If you're running a stock RRR, want to add some hop-ups and don't know where to start, the UE/X spec is a good starting point to improve the performance of your car based on what has worked for other people. Will it truly turn out to be the "ultimate" RRR? We'll have to wait and see.
Hi rmdhawaii,

Well said. I would sure like to be a part of your contributing "A Team"

Some gernric upgrades we know will improve performace for anyone, but yet, there are others that I am sure will only work for individual persons. So your own testing is very important.

I am rather very interested to get your feedback on that new engine you are going to try. (WASP) I myself was looking at this motor awahile back and would like to know how it performs over what you have tested so far???

I presently run an OS 5P TZ .12 and I would say I am pleased with it's performance.

Looking forward to your comments and some pics of the new engine installed in your car.
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I am rather very interested to get your feedback on that new engine you are going to try. (WASP) I myself was looking at this motor awahile back and would like to know how it performs over what you have tested so far???
Hawaii isn't exactly a Nitro friendly place, so the only testing opportunties I get is on race days, of which one is coming up this Sunday. We don't have a permanent on-road track. I tried the parking lot route before, but those nasty little pebbles you were referring to took a tooth off of my rear diff.

Preliminary test results on Sunday night (Hawaii time), full test results by next weekend for sure.
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BTW ... Check out this thread on the engine...

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=113734
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rmdhawaii, I think you will like the new spool/one-way and chassis. I tried them both and I could tell that there was a different chassis under there. It handled different, but faster. I think I could tell that there wasn't as much flex in the corners and I could take our sweeper at the end of the straight full tilt, which I couldn't last year with the same set-up and amount of grip.
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don't forget conditions change so a particular setup may have worked last raceday but could be completely useless the next........
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BTW ... Check out this thread on the engine...

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=113734
Oh Boy, what great reviews. I will sure be ordering this as my next engine.

Hummmm, then again I could sell what I have at present for this baby.
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rmdhawaii, I think you will like the new spool/one-way and chassis. I tried them both and I could tell that there was a different chassis under there. It handled different, but faster. I think I could tell that there wasn't as much flex in the corners and I could take our sweeper at the end of the straight full tilt, which I couldn't last year with the same set-up and amount of grip.
Hi McQuish,

Are you refering to the chassis from K-Factory or Kyosho? (VZW214)
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This week has been very busy for me and I couldn't really spend as much time on it as I wanted to, but here is the published V1RRR UEX Version 0.1 Draft specification as promised.

http://www.nitrokb.com/vonerrr/V1RRR....1%20Draft.pdf

Any comments, suggestions, questions or corrections are greatly appreciated. I apologize in advance for any errors or ommissions. I know I need a table of contents and a one page parts listing in the back, but it's already 2:00 am and I have another busy day ahead of me today. I'll have more time to clean it up and work on it next week.

Thanks guys!
That site is great! You are "THE MAN"!

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Rear camber links with bearings (included as part of kit but need the bearings)???

You got a picture of this?
I think he is talking about the stock rear components with the 90 degree plastic mount to the rear bulkhead in lieu of the eyelet and pivot ball... similar to the FW setup. I saw Tosolini was using that setup at the WinterNats. It makes the rear end tighter/less flex but that is not always a good thing. If you were using the stock rear shock tower mount thingy or that new rear camber plate then you could try this setup. It only works if the inner mount for the camber link is horizontal.
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Here is my Ultimate X [11+8]. Rebuilt car (15 new parts from UE/X), new engine, new tires and new ceramic bearings. We'll see how it performs today.

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Here is my Ultimate X [11+8]. Rebuilt car (15 new parts from UE/X), new engine, new tires and new ceramic bearings. We'll see how it performs today.

Looks great. Now go get it dirty.

Good luck... and may the force be with you.

You should round off the edges of your tires with a file. They look a little square in the picture.
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