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Old 06-28-2006, 03:11 PM   #556
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Perfect, why not sanction all these races ROAR championship races, and integrate them all into one big ROAR Championship. This would make a great 7-8 race series that would allow all the top racers to compete for the #1 plate so to speak!! And the top drivers from this championship would be eligible to compete at the Worlds.

Sounds perfectly logical, and feasable to me!!

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Sounds like the RC Pro Series? Doesn't this all ready exist?
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Old 06-28-2006, 03:12 PM   #557
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Brian, I got your PM

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Old 06-28-2006, 03:23 PM   #558
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Sounds like the RC Pro Series? Doesn't this all ready exist?
Kinda, but the RC Pro series is only by region. West, East, North, etc.

Plus, ROAR is the one that really counts at the moment. I am not taking anything from the RC Pro series, infact I think they are on the right track! They just need to get better exposure and have a stronger draw for the Top level pro drivers.

In fact, I am leaving tomorrow to attend the RC Pro series race in Santa Clara, CA. and will definitely be racing the 3rd round at Crystal Park in July!

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Dj.. I think Fort Myers is the hot spot for this yrs up coming nats. Keep my figures crossed for that one.
I tell you, I would not complain.
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What are you hoping to accomplish here with your opinion ????
The issue is in the past, what's done is done, by you making an discussion on the subject here and now is pointless. If you don't agree with the decision of our elected ROAR Officials, please notify them of your disagreement or disappointment, we are not on this thread to talk about the incident, we would like to discuss the race.
What I am trying to accomplish is not about what Roar has done. What I am trying to accomplish is what Roar has never done.

What that means is I don't care what has done. I DO care about NEXT YEAR MAN!. We have to take this into consideration so NEXT YEAR THIS SH..T won't have happen again!!!

All points that i wrote are for next year season. AND MY QUESTION TO YOU Is: should the same incident happened again next year, what would we do???????? That's why I came up with those opinions/ideas.....


"we are not on this thread to talk about the incident, we would like to discuss the race" <=== Incident was part of the race. You tell the world if that's not true....
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:11 PM   #561
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In my opinion, the ROAR national championship should consist of several races at different venues across the US. Wether it be 3, 5, 9, or whatever.

It never really made sense to me how one race can determine a champion. Usually in most forms of sports a championship consists of many races in a series. AMA SX, AMA MX, F1, NASCAR, Baseball, Football, Hockey, Soccer, etc. They all use a series of events to determine the final champion.

Maybe we as RC racers just need think bigger.

And don't cry to me about the 'cost being out of the reach of the average Joe' Average Joe doesn't have to compete in every event if he choses not to. That would be entirely up to him (or her). This would allow racers of all areas to compete in the ROAR series in their own area. But manufacurers could support the entire series and send their drivers to compete in the ultimate championship. Then in the end, the championship would mean so much more!

Just my 2Ę

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I strongely agree with you, mxwrench! They should be a series of races and use point system to determine the winner and manufactor champion. Just like a F-1 race.
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Old 06-30-2006, 01:49 AM   #562
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What I am trying to accomplish is not about what Roar has done. What I am trying to accomplish is what Roar has never done.

What that means is I don't care what has done. I DO care about NEXT YEAR MAN!. We have to take this into consideration so NEXT YEAR THIS SH..T won't have happen again!!!

All points that i wrote are for next year season. AND MY QUESTION TO YOU Is: should the same incident happened again next year, what would we do???????? That's why I came up with those opinions/ideas.....


"we are not on this thread to talk about the incident, we would like to discuss the race" <=== Incident was part of the race. You tell the world if that's not true....

my 2 cents: how can roar prevent this from happening next year? even if they make things more strict, is it possible to REALLY stop people from going at it at the track? if people wanna throw down they will. with or without consequences. your opinion is your opinion, but youre getting nowhere. just drop it already.

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Old 06-30-2006, 12:38 PM   #563
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I strongly disagree with the series format for determining national championships. Far to great of a commitment of time and money.
How about a 'stepping stone' qualification approach. Make the regionals more relevant by, using them as qualifyers for nats. This will give more incentive for ROAR membership, greatly increase regional participation (give a much needed boost to several clubs/tracks). Eventually have state champs to qualify for regionals...End result; BIG increase in membership.
ROAR has been becoming more progressive & responsive to the needs of the racing community. Let's keep it moving forward..
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:44 PM   #564
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Ron, that's a pretty swift idea. So would the MWS count as our regional race? Or would it be a totally separate series?
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Increasing the number of races just increases the cost of racing. As a person paying for all your travel and parts do you really think they could afford to travel to 8-10 races? Nice in theory and not realistic to the wallet. An actual "pro tour" is what you're talking about and there's not enough spectators or exposure to justify each company spending $250K to run a series.
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I dont think requiring the racer to have raced in a Level 3 or higher event to qualify for the nats is a bad idea. This would generate interest and make sure that the racer has an idea of what is expected before he races a national.
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Old 06-30-2006, 02:18 PM   #567
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my 2 cents: how can roar prevent this from happening next year? even if they make things more strict, is it possible to REALLY stop people from going at it at the track? if people wanna throw down they will. with or without consequences. your opinion is your opinion, but youre getting nowhere. just drop it already.

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Maybe you didn't read my opinions from the beginning..

"how can roar prevent this from happening next year?" <==== I have been telling that if this should happened again, then:

1) 1 year suspension

2) Should a person, who involved in this kind of incident, attend ROAR for the following year, then this person should be limited for qualify. Ex. If there will be 6 rounds of qualify...then the person can attend for only 4 rounds.

3) Should the same person involved the same kind of incident (for next year) again, then you're out of the race..(pack your stuff and go home bye bye) :P

Yes, you're right we cannot really stop people from fighting, BUT Hey...if ROAR come up with more strict rules, then I guess.. there will be no fight at all. Because the current rule said (the one that ROAR made decision on this incident)..
1) suspense such and such for 90 days, 1 year, etc.. <==== What this suspense means? NOTHING! Coz next year these guys can race again! Coz Roar National Fuel 1/10 touring car held only once a year. If we have a series of races, then 1 year suspension will hurt drivers ..But this one do nothing!
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It will do something. They can't attend any ROAR Race from my understanding. This will hurt them if they are sponsored drivers that are expected from their employers to be at a certain race.
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It will do something. They can't attend any ROAR Race from my understanding. This will hurt them if they are sponsored drivers that are expected from their employers to be at a certain race.
That's one of my opinions.. I am 100% agree with you, GrandeGixxer.

PEOPLE....when you do something and get paid/sponsored. That's called WORK. And when you work, there is no monkey business. Sit back and think think think again and again. Should this incident happened at your workplace, what would your boss do? I believe the guy got fired already!
A driver who race for a company has a a same responsibity as a employee who works at Home Depot.

When you called yourself a Pro..get paid/sponsored, there is a work. No monkey business.
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Ron, that's a pretty swift idea. So would the MWS count as our regional race? Or would it be a totally separate series?
I don't think it(the regionals) should be a series. We have ROAR regionals now. Just institute a nationals qual system for that race. I think the Regionals should be a ONE day event, unless turn-out for a particular venue or region would require 2 days to get it in.
The MWS takes up the whole season so that pretty much takes it out of the equation.
Scheduling would require that all the Regionals get completed early in the season, with Nat's culminating the season.
In most forms of competition, participation in the National championships must be earned in lower level events.
While growing up, I competed in Water Skiing tournaments. They used a combination of ratings & performance in the regionals as criteria for participation at the Nationals. For instance; expert rating & top 5 finish in a particular event (Jumping, slalom, or tricks), or Masters rating (highest rating at that time) and compete at regionals (finish order doesn't matter). Previous years winner was exempt from mandatory Regionals participation.
Ratings had to be earned by performing to a certain standard at sanctioned events. As a result of the rating/qualifying system, virtualy EVERYONE who skied in competition was a member of the sanctioning body (AWSA). Unsanctioned events were few & far between.
What percentage of RC racers do you suppose are members of ROAR?
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