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Old 04-19-2006, 11:25 AM   #16
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NTC3 was my first nitro car in 2003
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:39 AM   #17
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[QUOTE=wagnerov]Yokomo's gas car was only 190mm wide and was prone to traction rolling...even so it won the ROAR nats in 1998 I believe.
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Yokomo's nitro tourers were 200mm.
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:46 AM   #18
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You're probably right. What I do remember is Barry Baker laughing his head off when driving that YR4GP during the main because of its propensity for traction rolling. Keep in mind that was still when rubber tires were required in the class and springs were still nice and squishy. Ahh, the good ol' days...
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Old 04-19-2006, 07:33 PM   #19
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my first car was a thunder tiger tsn4 pro in 03, good little car but too eazy to damage and a pain to work on
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Old 05-07-2006, 04:58 PM   #20
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I beileve serpent can lay claim to that in the early 70's
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Old 05-07-2006, 06:33 PM   #21
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I beileve serpent can lay claim to that in the early 70's
I think you will find that the only on-road cars Serpent did in the 70's were 1:8th scale. 1:10th didnt come on the scene until the beginning off the 90's with the 235mm cars (Serpent, PB, BMT). Nitro Touring cars followed after that again in 96 with the Kyosho GP10.
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Old 05-08-2006, 08:14 AM   #22
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before the spider came out.. 2 yrs before that came out the original kyosho gp 10 (which is my first car) kyosho introduced for the first time on it's scale with a 2 speed transmission in the kit.. it was basically based on the inferno 10. shaft driven.. it's not 200mm though but it's a nitro tourer for the masses!
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My guess is probably HPI or YOKOMO..........but it is all based on the revolution from TAMIYA, they are the first one to release TOURING CAR 4WD...TA01 (or TT01) althought it is EP......I have 2 because of the AMG 190E 2.5-16 body...very nice.
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From what I can remember (mainstream), Kyosho Spider/Spyder, followed by the RS4, then the Impulse started the Pivot Ball craze tourers.

Kyosho started a lot of mainstream nitro stuff with their USA-1, Inferno, and some rear engined buggy that used a prop bump starter I forget the name. Tamiya was famous for scale/detail, Associated for their RC10 buggy, and Kyosho for nitro.

Then the big dawgs ran RC500s, BMTs, Deltas, etc. I think Kyosho had an 1/8th scaler in the 80s too.

Wow how times have changed. I remember when RCCA was quarterly, HPI started out making options for the RC10L, when the Stealth tranny came out, the RC10 had like five different versions in tub and graphite form.
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Then the big dawgs ran RC500s, BMTs, Deltas, etc. I think Kyosho had an 1/8th scaler in the 80s too.
Kyosho have been involved in 1:8th since 1971 with the Dash series. This was followed up by the original Fantom which continued until 1988 before Kyosho decided it would be better to distribute the Italian BMT cars which were coming to the fore.
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Associated was making 2wd 1/8th in the 70's. Kyosho with 1/10th with the ZR1 body, I believe they were the spyders. The associates 1/8ths were basically pan cars with .19's on them and .21's. As far as a true touring car HPI takes the fame for that with the RS4. My dad was running the associateds, they were crazy to control.
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Associated was making 2wd 1/8th in the 70's. Kyosho with 1/10th with the ZR1 body, I believe they were the spyders. The associates 1/8ths were basically pan cars with .19's on them and .21's. As far as a true touring car HPI takes the fame for that with the RS4. My dad was running the associateds, they were crazy to control.
Thorpe (Thorpe Raceway owners) and a few others were making 1:8th in the 60's. All the flatpan 1:8th cars were crazy to drive. They hardly ever went straight. Always in a big banana line. I raced the Associated Flat Pan cars too. When the AMPS Rapier (first independant 4wheel Suspension car to be marketed) came on the scene it was about 4laps faster over 5mins but often never seen the end of a run due to parts falling off etc.

On-Topic = The original thread starter asked for first Nitro Touring Car. Not first nitro car or other class of touring or Nitro racer. This was the Kyosho GP10.
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Old 05-08-2006, 03:23 PM   #28
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GP10 wasnt that the one they offered with the ZR-1 body or was I thinking of another. Its hard to believe how long ago they came out.
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GP10 wasnt that the one they offered with the ZR-1 body or was I thinking of another. Its hard to believe how long ago they came out.
The GP10 came out after the ZR-1 Corvette. The ZR-1 was more like an Ultima GP with road car wheels and shell (rally raid style). The GP10 was more refined and an early model of the current PureTen Alpha series.
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Gotcha. I couldnt remember if they considered that a touring or not. God I feel old. How the hobby has grown
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