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Old 12-09-2002, 03:49 PM   #1
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I just got a Nitro RS4 3 type SS and i would like to get into racing.
I would like some tips on racing and new parts that you think i should get as a move along. Thank you
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Old 12-09-2002, 04:13 PM   #2
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Start off with a nice set of tires to replace the stock ones. To help in handling, learn the basic adjustments of camber, toe, and caster and how they affect the car. Pick up a set of springs and shock oil range from 40-80. If you have more cash, a high speed steering servo is nice.

Do small changes and record them each time until you find a setup you like. Don't be afraid to ask tips from the pros. And like always, practice, practice, practice.

Don't dump too much money into the SS, if you're really serious about racing, you might want to consider a high end car as your skills improve.
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Start off with a nice set of tires to replace the stock ones. To help in handling, learn the basic adjustments of camber, toe, and caster and how they affect the car. Pick up a set of springs and shock oil range from 40-80. If you have more cash, a high speed steering servo is nice.

Do small changes and record them each time until you find a setup you like. Don't be afraid to ask tips from the pros. And like always, practice, practice, practice.

Don't dump too much money into the SS, if you're really serious about racing, you might want to consider a high end car as your skills improve.
I totally agree with Dan, especially the last part that says, "Don't dump too much money into the SS, if you're really serious about racing, you might want to consider a high end car as your skills improve."

If I were you, I would sell this one right away. Why? Because I once had it and kept it too long. Took me some time to get rid of it, now I have my real racing car, MTX-2. And, you'll learn a lot from it when you have a good car.
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Old 12-09-2002, 10:11 PM   #4
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Mr. Saleen;

Your Nitro-3 SS will be just fine for your first race car. As some of the other guys said TIRES are the number one most important item to have when racing. Ask the people running the race/track what is the best tire to use for the track. If you like I can give you specific recommendations based on my experiences racing.
(just E-mail me).
Next, get some of the optional progresive shock springs:
HPI-#6834 Yellow, #6835 Red and #6837 Green.
and maybe some 40-45wt shock oil.
Follow the instruction manual for suspension set-up. Start with the low grip settings all around.

Hope this helps,

PS: Don't let anyone sway you away from racing your HPI. You don't need a $500 car to have FUN racing.

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Mr. Saleen;

Your Nitro-3 SS will be just fine for your first race car. As some of the other guys said TIRES are the number one most important item to have when racing. Ask the people running the race/track what is the best tire to use for the track. If you like I can give you specific recommendations based on my experiences racing.
(just E-mail me).
Next, get some of the optional progresive shock springs:
HPI-#6834 Yellow, #6835 Red and #6837 Green.
and maybe some 40-45wt shock oil.
Follow the instruction manual for suspension set-up. Start with the low grip settings all around.

Hope this helps,

PS: Don't let anyone sway you away from racing your HPI. You don't need a $500 car to have FUN racing.
Hello popsracer,

Wouldn't that eventually add up to cost more than $500 anyway? He'll also need a setup system, for instance.

HPI is a good car to start with. But, if he's really into racing, wouldn't he be better off with a decent car? But, you are also right, somehow. We just don't know what his "racing" really means, i.e. parking lot or racing track.
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PS: Don't let anyone sway you away from racing your HPI. You don't need a $500 car to have FUN racing.
yeah! some of the most fun racing i've ever had was with my first ever nitro car the rs42. the only hop ups being a two speed and later a tg10 ofna pipe

enjoy the hobby when you know very little about it. eg; you don't know why your car veers to the left on a straight, but you don't care becouse it's fun..

cuz once you know why your car does the above (tweeked chassis by like 1 CM! maybe ) your gonna start spending AAALOT OF MONEY !

JUST STEER CLEAR OF THE THINGS THEY CALL BOARDS.
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EddietheFish;

He stated that he ALREADY had the HPI RS43, no need to buy another car.

As a beginner, there is NO WAY he needs a $200+ set-up system. At this point the BOARDS are going to be his greatest concern.

The Springs are a few dollars a pair and the shock oil is $3-$4 a bottle. Tires/inserts and Wheels are the most expensive items at $30 - $40 for a set of 4. I can usually get 3+ months of racing out of my tire sets.

Saleen S7;

You can Race your HPI exactly the way it is, but you will find it MUCH easier to drive on a Racetrack with the better tires and softer springs. The heavier oil will help settle the car down.

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EddietheFish;

He stated that he ALREADY had the HPI RS43, no need to buy another car.

As a beginner, there is NO WAY he needs a $200+ set-up system. At this point the BOARDS are going to be his greatest concern.

The Springs are a few dollars a pair and the shock oil is $3-$4 a bottle. Tires/inserts and Wheels are the most expensive items at $30 - $40 for a set of 4. I can usually get 3+ months of racing out of my tire sets.

Saleen S7;

You can Race your HPI exactly the way it is, but you will find it MUCH easier to drive on a Racetrack with the better tires and softer springs. The heavier oil will help settle the car down.
True.
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EddietheFish;

He stated that he ALREADY had the HPI RS43, no need to buy another car.

As a beginner, there is NO WAY he needs a $200+ set-up system. At this point the BOARDS are going to be his greatest concern.

The Springs are a few dollars a pair and the shock oil is $3-$4 a bottle. Tires/inserts and Wheels are the most expensive items at $30 - $40 for a set of 4. I can usually get 3+ months of racing out of my tire sets.

Saleen S7;

You can Race your HPI exactly the way it is, but you will find it MUCH easier to drive on a Racetrack with the better tires and softer springs. The heavier oil will help settle the car down.
I still wonder, somewhat.

Hello again, popsracer,

Will he ever learn how to setup his car, though? I mean the HPI RS4 3 pretty much allow you to adjust the Toe, camber. What about caster angle, ride height, up/down stop, tweak, etc.
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Caster and rear toe can be adjusted by buying different hubs. A minor hassle but this is how it works with C hub suspension.
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To be quiet simple eddie... all that stuff is irrelevant until he knows how to drive well with a basic setup. If he has all that other crap to worry about he can't concentrate on engine tuning and basic setup like shocks, toe and camber. The Mugen and Serpent cars are not beginner cars! Saleen, drive the HPI until you feel that you are ready to handle more car. I mean when you can drive the HPI without crashing all the time(I guess I don't know if you do now or not) and can turn consistently fast laps with it... then spend 400 on a car. Or you can get a NTC3 and have just as good a car for 300.

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The BEST set-up Car in the World, won't make the slightest bit of difference if you are crashing on every lap. I didn't buy any (expensive) set-up tools until I moved up into the higher Sportsman ranks. Before that, I don't think I would have even noticed. An RPM Camber gauge is probally the only set-up tool he would need in his first year of racing, and that after a few MONTHS of racing.

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Start off with a nice set of tires to replace the stock ones. To help in handling, learn the basic adjustments of camber, toe, and caster and how they affect the car. Pick up a set of springs and shock oil range from 40-80. If you have more cash, a high speed steering servo is nice.

Do small changes and record them each time until you find a setup you like. Don't be afraid to ask tips from the pros. And like always, practice, practice, practice.

Don't dump too much money into the SS, if you're really serious about racing, you might want to consider a high end car as your skills improve.
That is truth. I have an RS4 3SS too. Show DO NOT spend too MUCH $ into it. I just brought a V-1 S and I will race w/ this 1. I got the V1s for $179 @ towerhobbies. I think they disc, but the do have another V1s for $189. Have fun racing
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