Kyosho Inferno MP9 TKI4 1/8 Buggy Kit
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#376

Actually no, these weren't hard crashes.... Simply track was hard packed, blue groove and you have to pitch the car in the air to land side ways... I didn't say I was giving up on the car yet... Just didn't expect this look of the car after one weekend.... I have top vehicles since 92 so I know what I am doing when building and racing them. Speaking of the pins.... Does kyosho offer a replacement for the drive pins? One positive I will say about the vehicle, very responsive on setup changes, can make look scratched up however nothing is loose, meaning arms and steering are all tight like was new at least. And I planned as parts wore out or replace with the hard coated parts for a better over look. Even YK has on his cars the hard coated parts... Still not sure why not included in the kits... Anyways I digress...
#377

people suggesting the MP9 is more fragile than the best buggies out there need to question their driving, seriously
it's just as strong as a Mugen or Xray, I ran the 3 brands in racing and never broke a single part on my two MP9 TKI3 (raced them both in electric and nitro)
it doesn't matter if the crash looks impressive or hard or whatever.. it's the angle of attack that matters! you can be slow and break because the angle of attack was bad or you can be fast and provoke an impressive crash without even breaking anything
concerning the anodization it's just cosmetics and has nothing to do with the function of the car.. if you want a car that is always nice looking buy a traxxas X0-1 and start doing speed runs rather than racing off-road
there will be complaints no matter what, but I'm extremely demanding myself and no other buggy is better overall than the MP9.. NONE of them.. and I'm not even a Kyosho fanboy.. I ran almost all brands but Y.Kanai nailed it from the start with the MP9 geometry and just made his buggy better and better since 2009, resulting in the TKI4
you just bought this buggy? now you can focus on your driving! eventually you will become good enough to stop breaking parts
it's just as strong as a Mugen or Xray, I ran the 3 brands in racing and never broke a single part on my two MP9 TKI3 (raced them both in electric and nitro)
it doesn't matter if the crash looks impressive or hard or whatever.. it's the angle of attack that matters! you can be slow and break because the angle of attack was bad or you can be fast and provoke an impressive crash without even breaking anything
concerning the anodization it's just cosmetics and has nothing to do with the function of the car.. if you want a car that is always nice looking buy a traxxas X0-1 and start doing speed runs rather than racing off-road
there will be complaints no matter what, but I'm extremely demanding myself and no other buggy is better overall than the MP9.. NONE of them.. and I'm not even a Kyosho fanboy.. I ran almost all brands but Y.Kanai nailed it from the start with the MP9 geometry and just made his buggy better and better since 2009, resulting in the TKI4
you just bought this buggy? now you can focus on your driving! eventually you will become good enough to stop breaking parts

Last edited by Pulse_; 04-28-2016 at 02:10 PM.
#378
Tech Master

I was a kysoho fanboy until the 777 came out. This was a bad car, difficult to drive. I regret i ever bought it :-( After that i have ran several cars from Mugen, yes, i am a Mugen fanboy too.. Xray-not for me, Losi, Crono, yes, even the Crono cars was better than the 777... ( actually the Crono RS3 was a seriously fast car!!)
Now, i am bak on the Kysoho bandwagen and i just drives extreamly good unless your on a extreamly highbite track. The anodising thing bugs me too. Why is several parts gun metal when the spareparts you buy is hard coated? It just does not make sense..
Now, i am bak on the Kysoho bandwagen and i just drives extreamly good unless your on a extreamly highbite track. The anodising thing bugs me too. Why is several parts gun metal when the spareparts you buy is hard coated? It just does not make sense..
#379

I was a kysoho fanboy until the 777 came out. This was a bad car, difficult to drive. I regret i ever bought it :-( After that i have ran several cars from Mugen, yes, i am a Mugen fanboy too.. Xray-not for me, Losi, Crono, yes, even the Crono cars was better than the 777... ( actually the Crono RS3 was a seriously fast car!!)
Now, i am bak on the Kysoho bandwagen and i just drives extreamly good unless your on a extreamly highbite track. The anodising thing bugs me too. Why is several parts gun metal when the spareparts you buy is hard coated? It just does not make sense..
Now, i am bak on the Kysoho bandwagen and i just drives extreamly good unless your on a extreamly highbite track. The anodising thing bugs me too. Why is several parts gun metal when the spareparts you buy is hard coated? It just does not make sense..
you can't blame Kysoho for making money, they could have taken the same path as other brands and come out every year with another buggy just to feed the demand.. but they don't! so you can keep your Kyosho and improve it through the years by just changing parts that wear and not be lost with drastic handling changes from one generation to the other.. this way the MP9 can also keep its value on the used market
if you're being loyal with Kyosho you can just compliment this approach because it is the most beneficial to the drivers.. people say it's too expensive I answer it might actually be the least expensive in the long run for the reasons mentioned above.. and btw hard coated parts aren't needed to make the buggy faster or stronger
#380

What hard coated parts that are sold for the TKI4 that is not in the kit now?
thank you
thank you
#382
#383

OK thank you
#384

short answer no, kyosho dont sell the pins, you have to buy KYOIF144 and push the pins out and insert those into your universals.
one extra step but its easy to do.
i normally buy like 8 or so sets and push out all the pins and keep them in a ziploc ready for when i need them
#385

Hard packed track or not, it is dependent on driving style. Not every buggy made for everyone. I ran my Mp9 at Nats, Sworkz and the Labor day shootout in 80 degree weather at Amain (Hard packed blue groove) I can say that I am not the best driver and still did not break anything. Not even a arm.
Also, I am not sure where you folks are shopping, but my Tki4 did not cost 900 bucks! if you cannot afford it, that is fine. Plenty of other buggies out there for ya but you may end up spending as much to upgrade IE folks that run Kyosho shocks and springs lol
Also, I am not sure where you folks are shopping, but my Tki4 did not cost 900 bucks! if you cannot afford it, that is fine. Plenty of other buggies out there for ya but you may end up spending as much to upgrade IE folks that run Kyosho shocks and springs lol
Last edited by bucket2772; 04-28-2016 at 06:20 PM. Reason: spell check
#386

this has been answered countless times in the mp9 thread.
short answer no, kyosho dont sell the pins, you have to buy KYOIF144 and push the pins out and insert those into your universals.
one extra step but its easy to do.
i normally buy like 8 or so sets and push out all the pins and keep them in a ziploc ready for when i need them
short answer no, kyosho dont sell the pins, you have to buy KYOIF144 and push the pins out and insert those into your universals.
one extra step but its easy to do.
i normally buy like 8 or so sets and push out all the pins and keep them in a ziploc ready for when i need them
Or eBay and or Amazon 2.9 x 15.8 stainless pins. They are slightly long but easy to trim. 100 pieces for $8 plus a few to ship. Not bad.
#387
#388
Tech Master
iTrader: (8)

OK I am new to kyosho, bought two buggies Tki4 and converted one to an ebuggy. I am with you guys, you pay 700 plus alum hubs and after one race weekend it looks like has 3 gallons plus on the car if not more. Kinda bummed about that. I have had some hard landings in some hard mains this past weekend and bent one of my 85 dollar front 16 degree hubs, came off a jump wrong and broke a rear arm which bent a hing pin, and the car has handled OK that's about it, but not like I had hoped. Also after one race weekend the center driver line unis are already wiggly and pins have a flat spot, well had some pins from my mugen and went to change it, the pin went in but cracked the universal, so had to buy replacement universals for that. So yea almost 2000 in switching to this car and kinda regreting it right now...
I have never bent a front C hub EVER, and I have never broken a rear arm NEVER, now I have slightly bent the rear pins but only noticed it on a rebuild. I have also never even broken a front plastic hub.
I am also not a great driver and I have had some horrific crashes with only broken front arms and bent pins. The worst I ever did was slightly bend the front rear pin holder. Sorry for your bad luck but give it another shot I am sure you will do better next time. Also can you post pics of the bent c hub?
#390

if this is the only complain about the TKI4 I'm fine
you can't blame Kysoho for making money, they could have taken the same path as other brands and come out every year with another buggy just to feed the demand.. but they don't! so you can keep your Kyosho and improve it through the years by just changing parts that wear and not be lost with drastic handling changes from one generation to the other.. this way the MP9 can also keep its value on the used market
if you're being loyal with Kyosho you can just compliment this approach because it is the most beneficial to the drivers.. people say it's too expensive I answer it might actually be the least expensive in the long run for the reasons mentioned above.. and btw hard coated parts aren't needed to make the buggy faster or stronger
you can't blame Kysoho for making money, they could have taken the same path as other brands and come out every year with another buggy just to feed the demand.. but they don't! so you can keep your Kyosho and improve it through the years by just changing parts that wear and not be lost with drastic handling changes from one generation to the other.. this way the MP9 can also keep its value on the used market
if you're being loyal with Kyosho you can just compliment this approach because it is the most beneficial to the drivers.. people say it's too expensive I answer it might actually be the least expensive in the long run for the reasons mentioned above.. and btw hard coated parts aren't needed to make the buggy faster or stronger