Kyosho Inferno MP9 TKI4 1/8 Buggy Kit
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#1536
Tech Adept

Hi Guys.
Can someone please enlighten me regarding rear shock tower. The stock tower compared to the "hard" shock tower are not the same size. The hard tower is 3-4mm (didn't measure) higher. That means less droop, or is there some trick i missed ??
A bit strange that it's not possible to buy a rear tower similar to the stock one, since i have now gotten used to the stock droop. I haven't tried the "hard" tower, only seen it compared to stock, but i imagine my droop being minimized quite a bit.
Anyone have an answer ?
Enjoy -
Can someone please enlighten me regarding rear shock tower. The stock tower compared to the "hard" shock tower are not the same size. The hard tower is 3-4mm (didn't measure) higher. That means less droop, or is there some trick i missed ??
A bit strange that it's not possible to buy a rear tower similar to the stock one, since i have now gotten used to the stock droop. I haven't tried the "hard" tower, only seen it compared to stock, but i imagine my droop being minimized quite a bit.
Anyone have an answer ?
Enjoy -
#1537

Hello Gavel,
The HB Piston would not properly fit into Kyosho Shock Shaft because the center hole is 2.8mm where Kyosho piston has 2.5mm Center Hole.
Btw, I would say that You should stick with Kyosho Piston because in my finding Kyosho Piston is the best machined piston in the Industry in term of precision.
Cheers..
The HB Piston would not properly fit into Kyosho Shock Shaft because the center hole is 2.8mm where Kyosho piston has 2.5mm Center Hole.
Btw, I would say that You should stick with Kyosho Piston because in my finding Kyosho Piston is the best machined piston in the Industry in term of precision.
Cheers..

#1538
Tech Master
iTrader: (16)

Check out Hudy's setup system manual and you'll see that:
Thinner front anti-roll bar will increase from chassis roll, increase front traction, decrease rear traction and increase off power (corner entry) traction. The reverse is true for a thicker bar.
#1539

I think you both are saying the same. Low traction thin bar hi traction thick bar.
#1540
Tech Adept

Thanks for the responses regarding rear shock tower 
New question. Are you dudes using the Black or white 1.3x8 hole pistons ?

New question. Are you dudes using the Black or white 1.3x8 hole pistons ?
#1542

Another run, another setup changes:
- Limited fr.droop from 101 to 100mm
- Shortened rear link from 10.8mm to 10.3mm (noticed wear pattern on tires)
And with almost bald Catapults it is a blast: tons of bite exiting the corner.
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Question about box setup: looks like that brake bias is rear-shifted? It took some time to make fr.bias and fr.engagement first.
- Limited fr.droop from 101 to 100mm
- Shortened rear link from 10.8mm to 10.3mm (noticed wear pattern on tires)
And with almost bald Catapults it is a blast: tons of bite exiting the corner.
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Question about box setup: looks like that brake bias is rear-shifted? It took some time to make fr.bias and fr.engagement first.
#1543
Tech Master
iTrader: (16)

If you could please explain how and why it took you so long to get more front brake bias, perhaps we can go from there. I find it still takes the same amount of time to screw the actuation rods into or out of the throttle horn blocks and the manual still gives the same crappy instructions on how to setup the springs and little black plastic thingies. None of the bits and pieces which make up the components of IF454 have changed for many years, afaik.
Incidentally, Losi produced a fantastic document giving very thorough instructions about how to setup one's throttle and brakes correctly. If anyone's interested I'll see if I can dig it up.
Oh, one last query: why do you want your front brakes coming on first anyway? I used to race motorcycles and am still very much interested in them and watch every MotoGP race and in the wet, it's common practice to put the rear brake on slightly before the front as it gives the bike more stability and it can be incredibly easy to lock the front brake when trying to slow a GP bike from 200-250+kph for a tight hairpin or off-camber corner, at perhaps, about 60-100kph (approx 125-150mph down to 35-60'mph) in the wet as literally squeezing the brake lever maybe 1-2mm too far will lock the front wheel and in such conditions a rider goes down before they even have a chance react.
So my point is that having the rear brakes apply a tiny fraction of a second sooner than the fronts is usually quite beneficial. There are so many parallels between how an off-road buggy is driven and the lines they take compared, especially with motocross bikes but road racing bikes also.
Anyway, I'm just curious as to why you'd think that anything much, if at all has changed since the previous few TKI buggy revisions and even if it had, why would you have any issues at all about increasing the bias towards the front?
#1545

Anyone tried the m2c o ring shock pistons? Thanks