Kyosho Inferno MP9 TKI4 1/8 Buggy Kit
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#1516

Less kick up, which means the front rises and dives less on throttle and brake inputs.
#1517

Hey 30thoot ran a few laps with the starting setup ran good just a little loose off power corner entry, what should I try first roll center changes or thicker sway bar, front or rear or both. Gracias.
#1518

[QUOTE=ravage;14920105]
Ok sweet i think I'm going to go with it. Is this what you are talking about? https://www.amainhobbies.com/m2c-rac...2c9610/p267815
Those would be it. 👍
Ok sweet i think I'm going to go with it. Is this what you are talking about? https://www.amainhobbies.com/m2c-rac...2c9610/p267815
#1520

My bad, test was skewed wrong front roll center will try again this week. Big race coming Up. Qwick question, will a too fast steering servo hurt handling ?
#1521
Tech Master
iTrader: (8)

Depends on your skill and if you can get used to it. If it is much faster than your previous one you might be a bit twitchy at first. At least when I went from a standard HV savox servo to the aluminum HV faster servo I was twitchy a bit at first, but once I got used to it, I felt it helped my lap times. Sometimes though I do start my turns a bit too soon when I am trying to really hug the lines on corners, but this might be me not the servo
#1523
Tech Master
iTrader: (16)

I'd say that absolutely a too fast servo will make a driver slower. For sure if your steering servo is too fast then the car will be (depending on a driver's own driving style and preferences) twitchy and can be quite difficult to control. I tried using fast servos but just couldn't get any benefit from anything faster than about 0.09s ornso. And that goes for the throttle servo too. In fact, the throttle was about the only thing which didn't suffer from the fast servo but certainly my steering and braking did. And noticeably.
No matter how much neg expo I dialled in, and I put it way up at one stage, it still didn't help. I believe the reason being that expo alters how far a servo will rotate in comparison to how far the tx wheel is turned but it doesn't alter the speed at all. If you look at how expo works, it tames the initial servo travel and really, it makes a lot of sense because it helps to increase accuracy at small wheel movements, where it's most needed because if the wheel is turned quite a bit, obviously the driver isn't trying to finesse anything.
But it's all down to personal preference. I'm prettty sure that Jared Tebo uses the Power servo for both steering and throttle, and I'm not 100% sure about this but I think Cody also used a Power servo for steering when he won his WC. But for sure, there's no right or wrong, just whatever gives a driver the best feel and confidence is all that matters. I actually found that a reasonably slow servo didn't hurt my performance at all when I was just getting started. I used a Hitec 5955/7955 for a number of years and they were really quite a popular servo in their day, so obviously many other non-pro drivers agreed.
No matter how much neg expo I dialled in, and I put it way up at one stage, it still didn't help. I believe the reason being that expo alters how far a servo will rotate in comparison to how far the tx wheel is turned but it doesn't alter the speed at all. If you look at how expo works, it tames the initial servo travel and really, it makes a lot of sense because it helps to increase accuracy at small wheel movements, where it's most needed because if the wheel is turned quite a bit, obviously the driver isn't trying to finesse anything.
But it's all down to personal preference. I'm prettty sure that Jared Tebo uses the Power servo for both steering and throttle, and I'm not 100% sure about this but I think Cody also used a Power servo for steering when he won his WC. But for sure, there's no right or wrong, just whatever gives a driver the best feel and confidence is all that matters. I actually found that a reasonably slow servo didn't hurt my performance at all when I was just getting started. I used a Hitec 5955/7955 for a number of years and they were really quite a popular servo in their day, so obviously many other non-pro drivers agreed.
#1524

A fast servo are benefical IF you set it up right. Use expo too numb the neutral point, -10 is enough, and slow the servo speed in the radio. If you set forward speed at -5 or similar and let return speed be at 0 you can use all pros of a fast servo. This means that you can get more traction when you start turning into a corner and not lose it due to twitchiness. But the return will be fast so you are able to correct if you need too. Same goes for throttle.
Just my opinion
Just my opinion
#1525

Thanks to all of you
#1527

When running the TKI4 hard arms #IF487H on my TKI3 it looks like I need the following additional parts:
93mm universal #IFW425
inner lower hinge pin #IFW462-64.5 (not necessary but supposed to be better)
outer hinge pin #IFW458
I see the TKI4 manual states to install the inner suspension pills with the holes towards the inside. Are the longer universals absolutely needed on the TKI3 with the TKI4 arms?
Is this correct? Should I get anything else?
Thanks
93mm universal #IFW425
inner lower hinge pin #IFW462-64.5 (not necessary but supposed to be better)
outer hinge pin #IFW458
I see the TKI4 manual states to install the inner suspension pills with the holes towards the inside. Are the longer universals absolutely needed on the TKI3 with the TKI4 arms?
Is this correct? Should I get anything else?
Thanks
#1528

When running the TKI4 hard arms #IF487H on my TKI3 it looks like I need the following additional parts:
93mm universal #IFW425
inner lower hinge pin #IFW462-64.5 (not necessary but supposed to be better)
outer hinge pin #IFW458
I see the TKI4 manual states to install the inner suspension pills with the holes towards the inside. Are the longer universals absolutely needed on the TKI3 with the TKI4 arms?
Is this correct? Should I get anything else?
Thanks
93mm universal #IFW425
inner lower hinge pin #IFW462-64.5 (not necessary but supposed to be better)
outer hinge pin #IFW458
I see the TKI4 manual states to install the inner suspension pills with the holes towards the inside. Are the longer universals absolutely needed on the TKI3 with the TKI4 arms?
Is this correct? Should I get anything else?
Thanks
Or run the IF493 Arm. (Its same geometry as TKI3 but strengthened like the tki4. Don't need IFW458 either but thats a worthy upgrade in my opinion (instead of the screw).
#1529

Thanks for the info. I have some spare TKI3 universals so I will try it with the TKI3 universals and see what happens. When they need replacing I will definitely get the longer TKI4 universals.
#1530
Tech Adept

Hi Guys.
Can someone please enlighten me regarding rear shock tower. The stock tower compared to the "hard" shock tower are not the same size. The hard tower is 3-4mm (didn't measure) higher. That means less droop, or is there some trick i missed ??
A bit strange that it's not possible to buy a rear tower similar to the stock one, since i have now gotten used to the stock droop. I haven't tried the "hard" tower, only seen it compared to stock, but i imagine my droop being minimized quite a bit.
Anyone have an answer ?
Enjoy -
Can someone please enlighten me regarding rear shock tower. The stock tower compared to the "hard" shock tower are not the same size. The hard tower is 3-4mm (didn't measure) higher. That means less droop, or is there some trick i missed ??
A bit strange that it's not possible to buy a rear tower similar to the stock one, since i have now gotten used to the stock droop. I haven't tried the "hard" tower, only seen it compared to stock, but i imagine my droop being minimized quite a bit.
Anyone have an answer ?
Enjoy -