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#1471
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: SO. CAL. Thunder alley, revelation raceway The Dirt -Perris RIP OCRC
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Most of the expert/pro drivers at my track are using J&T bearings they are really good bearing clutch and car. They have a online store and stock other cool parts.
#1472
Tech Master
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My 4.0 is all greased up still after like 6 times at the track, I plan on cleaning them all out fully tho, I like the feel. You can’t mix greased and ungreased bearing when one fails or needs a change, especially on the wheel bearings!! It just throws it off.
This is why I’m looking to upgrade to some alternative bearing to clean out and test to see how they perform. Im not worried about them failing, I cleaned a stock set a lot in the 3.0 and watched them last a ridiculous amount of time with only a few I needed to change!
I tried this with tko, it was my first set I took apart a long time ago. Didn’t work out but I notice they have a lot more balls then stock. Pretty cool the stuff u see in bearings!! Then the seals, makes u wanna go buy the most expensive boca kit they sell for the 8!! But I know there’s probably a cheaper version you can get that doesn’t have the big name but maybe still close in performance and quality!
#1473
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that’s a really great website man, thank you!! I really like some of the ceramics for 5 bucks! Do you just get the kit bearings? I’m not really into one side being a metal seal but I see the individuals are a buck and they are both rubber! I’m gonna get to finding some more I like, I see they have like thrust bearings in clutch size, that’s the craziest bearing!! Wonder if they r made for clutch bearings lol
#1474
Tech Master
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So you take a brand new bearing and clean all the grease out that someone specifically designed to have grease or lubricant in their bearings?
I bet if you took a TKO bearing for the clutch and left them the way they are probably last a long time. I know pros like Ryan Lutz swear by the TKO bearings for the clutch bell.
#1475
Must be that hidden speed JQ talks about. I can't tell difference between a 1 dollar or 3 dollar bearing.
So you take a brand new bearing and clean all the grease out that someone specifically designed to have grease or lubricant in their bearings?
I bet if you took a TKO bearing for the clutch and left them the way they are probably last a long time. I know pros like Ryan Lutz swear by the TKO bearings for the clutch bell.
So you take a brand new bearing and clean all the grease out that someone specifically designed to have grease or lubricant in their bearings?
I bet if you took a TKO bearing for the clutch and left them the way they are probably last a long time. I know pros like Ryan Lutz swear by the TKO bearings for the clutch bell.
#1476
Tech Master
iTrader: (25)
Must be that hidden speed JQ talks about. I can't tell difference between a 1 dollar or 3 dollar bearing.
So you take a brand new bearing and clean all the grease out that someone specifically designed to have grease or lubricant in their bearings?
I bet if you took a TKO bearing for the clutch and left them the way they are probably last a long time. I know pros like Ryan Lutz swear by the TKO bearings for the clutch bell.
So you take a brand new bearing and clean all the grease out that someone specifically designed to have grease or lubricant in their bearings?
I bet if you took a TKO bearing for the clutch and left them the way they are probably last a long time. I know pros like Ryan Lutz swear by the TKO bearings for the clutch bell.
Last edited by Matt Piva; 02-13-2019 at 10:45 PM.
#1477
Tech Master
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dude don’t put me in the same category as jq, you don’t know who I am. You didn’t even go look at my post after that comment regarding why I said that! don’t talk down to people you don’t know, you would be surprised who I really am behind this alias. I’ve tested this and the difference for years on this matter. It’s absolutly noticeable to any good driver, sorry your not one of them. If your really that dull to think cleaning out your bearings around an entire car and then throwing one greased bearing in won’t be a noticeable pull in a hub bearing, well then your not very on top of your stuff or don’t care. I’m meticulous about my stuff.
I think a normal 1 dollar bearing such as ones from Avid Rc is perfectly fine. As soon as they get gritty toss it out put another one in. The only place i think bearings matter is in the clutch bell just because of the heat and strain.
So for a clutch bell i would say spend the extra money on something like a TKO bearing or a ceramic bearing.
#1478
Car bearings:
Keep in mind the cleaning process of your car. Using things like a WD-40 baths and air compressors will push debris into bearings and shorten the life of the bearing. You don't need to be a pro driver to understand this. I've run Losi, Mugen, Kyosho, Xray, and Avid bearings, I destroyed all of them with WD-40 and an air compressor. Later,.. I learned like everyone else eventually does that's BAD. lol. I use a dry brush for the main dirt, a light spray of simple green & with a rag, and a final touch of SC1 so dirt doesn't stick the next time. I avoid blowing wet cleaners and solvents into the bearings when dirt is present. I mostly ran Avid bearings and keep my stock ones as a backup, or run them only on the practice car. Replace as needed, but replacing in sets does help keep track of bearing life in certain parts of the car. For example: if a left rear wheel bearing is gritty and near failure, change both the left and right in a pair. If you do this you should have equal rotational resistance on both sides of the car if that matters to you. Admittedly, and from experience, most my bearing failures are self inflicted due to to improper cleaning.
Clutch bearings:
I run in multiple sets of bearings in during engine break-in, wipe them off, and set them aside for later use. When idling for break-in the excess grease comes out and leaves only whats needed a thin film. I now use the TKO in the race car, and Avid in the practice car.
If this was a 1/10th scale thread, cleaning your bearings and oiling them often might be the ticket. However this is 1/8th scale baby,.. run'em, hard, and have fun, dont spend your life oiling every bearing. This is only my opinion, but it was formed many years ago.
Cheers!
#1480
Tech Master
iTrader: (25)
Seriously though...
Car bearings:
Keep in mind the cleaning process of your car. Using things like a WD-40 baths and air compressors will push debris into bearings and shorten the life of the bearing. You don't need to be a pro driver to understand this. I've run Losi, Mugen, Kyosho, Xray, and Avid bearings, I destroyed all of them with WD-40 and an air compressor. Later,.. I learned like everyone else eventually does that's BAD. lol. I use a dry brush for the main dirt, a light spray of simple green & with a rag, and a final touch of SC1 so dirt doesn't stick the next time. I avoid blowing wet cleaners and solvents into the bearings when dirt is present. I mostly ran Avid bearings and keep my stock ones as a backup, or run them only on the practice car. Replace as needed, but replacing in sets does help keep track of bearing life in certain parts of the car. For example: if a left rear wheel bearing is gritty and near failure, change both the left and right in a pair. If you do this you should have equal rotational resistance on both sides of the car if that matters to you. Admittedly, and from experience, most my bearing failures are self inflicted due to to improper cleaning.
Clutch bearings:
I run in multiple sets of bearings in during engine break-in, wipe them off, and set them aside for later use. When idling for break-in the excess grease comes out and leaves only whats needed a thin film. I now use the TKO in the race car, and Avid in the practice car.
If this was a 1/10th scale thread, cleaning your bearings and oiling them often might be the ticket. However this is 1/8th scale baby,.. run'em, hard, and have fun, dont spend your life oiling every bearing. This is only my opinion, but it was formed many years ago.
Cheers!
Car bearings:
Keep in mind the cleaning process of your car. Using things like a WD-40 baths and air compressors will push debris into bearings and shorten the life of the bearing. You don't need to be a pro driver to understand this. I've run Losi, Mugen, Kyosho, Xray, and Avid bearings, I destroyed all of them with WD-40 and an air compressor. Later,.. I learned like everyone else eventually does that's BAD. lol. I use a dry brush for the main dirt, a light spray of simple green & with a rag, and a final touch of SC1 so dirt doesn't stick the next time. I avoid blowing wet cleaners and solvents into the bearings when dirt is present. I mostly ran Avid bearings and keep my stock ones as a backup, or run them only on the practice car. Replace as needed, but replacing in sets does help keep track of bearing life in certain parts of the car. For example: if a left rear wheel bearing is gritty and near failure, change both the left and right in a pair. If you do this you should have equal rotational resistance on both sides of the car if that matters to you. Admittedly, and from experience, most my bearing failures are self inflicted due to to improper cleaning.
Clutch bearings:
I run in multiple sets of bearings in during engine break-in, wipe them off, and set them aside for later use. When idling for break-in the excess grease comes out and leaves only whats needed a thin film. I now use the TKO in the race car, and Avid in the practice car.
If this was a 1/10th scale thread, cleaning your bearings and oiling them often might be the ticket. However this is 1/8th scale baby,.. run'em, hard, and have fun, dont spend your life oiling every bearing. This is only my opinion, but it was formed many years ago.
Cheers!
#1482
#1483
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The Tlr 8ight 4.0 tuning kit is at a new reduced price for anyone on the fence fyi
#1484
Tech Master
iTrader: (25)
Does anyone know where I could buy the fioroni aluminum diff case for a losi 8 ?? I’m having trouble finding one so if anyone has one they would part with I could really use it! My aluminum diff mount is putting so much torque on my diff the case is getting so hot the pins are melting in the grooves and making multiple diffs now (on my 3rd now) lock up. Here’s the exact one I’m looking for...
Last edited by Matt Piva; 05-10-2019 at 11:46 AM.
#1485
Does anyone know where I could buy the fioroni aluminum diff case for a losi 8 ?? I’m having trouble finding one so if anyone has one they would part with I could really use it! My aluminum diff mount is putting so much torque on my diff the case is getting so hot the pins are melting in the grooves and making multiple diffs now (on my 3rd now) lock up. Here’s the exact one I’m looking for...