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"9.2.5.1 All gearboxes must be on a single shaft" from the roar rule book.

Can I build custom gear reducers for between the engine or the differentials?

Based on what I read, belt drive reductions are not permitted?

Does the ROAR rules matter at most tracks?

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Roar rules only matter at ROAR sanctioned events or if the event has posted that they are teaching accordingly. I have yet to see any tech at a club race at any track. If you get stupid crazy though other racers may call you out.
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Originally Posted by wmazz View Post
"9.2.5.1 All gearboxes must be on a single shaft" from the roar rule book.

Can I build custom gear reducers for between the engine or the differentials?

Based on what I read, belt drive reductions are not permitted?

Does the ROAR rules matter at most tracks?

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Instead of going back and forth with you for 5+ pages, I'm just going to come out and ask why do you want to add a gear reduction setup? What on earth are you attempting to accomplish?
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I want to increase traction and drivability without increasing top speed.

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I'm glad you commented, I had thought about just asking you these questions.
Do you race only buggies?


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"On a single shaft," might not be the best explanation. On a single axis, which runs perpendicular to the rotation of the gearbox, would be a better explanation.

Essentially if you want to have any extra gearing/reduction it needs to all be on the same rotating axis as the main gear. You're also not allowed to run multi-speed transmissions in offroad.


EDIT: Just to preface my comment, this applies to ROAR only. IFMAR does not have any technical regulation in regards to transmissions, gear drives, or the like.
http://www.ifmar.org/pdf/rules/ifmar...froad_2012.pdf

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Originally Posted by wmazz View Post
I want to increase traction and drivability without increasing top speed.

ifuonlyknew:
I'm glad you commented, I had thought about just asking you these questions.
Do you race only buggies?


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I have been racing r/c cars for 20+ years, so I have had wheel time with just about anything with wheels. Cars, trucks, motorcycles, boats, on-road and off-road, nitro and electric, I have even dabbled in electric helicopters. I really don't care for truggies. Too goofy looking, and they just don't drive the way a buggy does.

A properly setup clutch is the key to making traction and driveability. Check out the clutch from Buku racing. Much more reliable, and not going to add a bunch of rotating weight. Have you got your Mugen on the track yet?
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Originally Posted by ifuonlyknew View Post
I have been racing r/c cars for 20+ years, so I have had wheel time with just about anything with wheels. Cars, trucks, motorcycles, boats, on-road and off-road, nitro and electric, I have even dabbled in electric helicopters. I really don't care for truggies. Too goofy looking, and they just don't drive the way a buggy does.

A properly setup clutch is the key to making traction and driveability. Check out the clutch from Buku racing. Much more reliable, and not going to add a bunch of rotating weight. Have you got your Mugen on the track yet?
Some people enjoy the technical/theory/design/screwing around side of racing more than the racing itself.
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Originally Posted by Imbue View Post
Some people enjoy the technical/theory/design/screwing around side of racing more than the racing itself.
That's Right. I am a dyno type person. I build pipes, and I have problems accepting
idea's considered normal, when it conflicts with my previous experience.


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Have you got your Mugen on the track yet?
Not Yet. I found two local tracks yesterday, that I want
to spend some time at.

Are You racing in the Jimmy Babcock series?


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That's Right. I am a dyno type person. I build pipes, and I have problems accepting
idea's considered normal, when it conflicts with my previous experience.




Not Yet. I found two local tracks yesterday, that I want
to spend some time at.

Are You racing in the Jimmy Babcock series?


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No JBRL for me, I'm not out in California anymore.

Get your MBX5T on the track so you can get a feel for the demands of the car side of things. I have a funny feeling you will see exactly why things are the way they are.
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