Buggy or Truggy pros cons 0.o
12-22-2011, 02:52 PM
#31
Maybe you should slow down, close your eyes and just pick one. The differences between the various RTR models isn't really that much. It sounds like your chances of racing in the near future are minimal, so have fun with a RTR. You've already gone through the
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12-22-2011, 04:23 PM
#32
Another RTR buggy to keep your eyes on is the HPI D8S (http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/106116/). It's based off the Hotbodies D8, so it'll likely be a good starter racer, without breaking the bank. It's got a 0.21 pullstart engine and a basic 2.4 GHz radio system. It's going for $460 on Amain, so that's a heck of a deal for a ready-to-race 1/8 buggy.
12-22-2011, 04:29 PM
#33
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DEFINATELY check out what has a bigger showing at your local track
i didnt do this when i got into racing and went straight to a truggy and regretted it after my first race when i was the only truggy that showed up and there were 26 buggy entries, fortunately they let me run with the buggies but it wasnt nearly as much fun as it could have been if i had a buggy
it didnt take me long to realize either how expensive it was, every other weekend i was getting two new sets of tires and it added up quick at 80 bucks for 4
just my $0.02
i didnt do this when i got into racing and went straight to a truggy and regretted it after my first race when i was the only truggy that showed up and there were 26 buggy entries, fortunately they let me run with the buggies but it wasnt nearly as much fun as it could have been if i had a buggy
it didnt take me long to realize either how expensive it was, every other weekend i was getting two new sets of tires and it added up quick at 80 bucks for 4
just my $0.02
12-22-2011, 06:42 PM
#34
DEFINATELY check out what has a bigger showing at your local track
i didnt do this when i got into racing and went straight to a truggy and regretted it after my first race when i was the only truggy that showed up and there were 26 buggy entries, fortunately they let me run with the buggies but it wasnt nearly as much fun as it could have been if i had a buggy
it didnt take me long to realize either how expensive it was, every other weekend i was getting two new sets of tires and it added up quick at 80 bucks for 4
just my $0.02
i didnt do this when i got into racing and went straight to a truggy and regretted it after my first race when i was the only truggy that showed up and there were 26 buggy entries, fortunately they let me run with the buggies but it wasnt nearly as much fun as it could have been if i had a buggy
it didnt take me long to realize either how expensive it was, every other weekend i was getting two new sets of tires and it added up quick at 80 bucks for 4
just my $0.02
Every other weekend buying truggy tires you must be running on a blue grove track or something
12-22-2011, 07:19 PM
#36
Oh yea them holeshot tires will not last no matter what surface you run on inless your super smooth on the throttle thats the only way they will last.
Although ive seen the new holeshots for the buggys they look pretty good none for truggy though.
The I-beams last forever man lol .
I found out the I-beams work a lot better on loamy tracks than a dusty track in the soft compound.
12-22-2011, 07:21 PM
#37
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Oh yea them holeshot tires will not last no matter what surface you run on inless your super smooth on the throttle thats the only way they will last.
Although ive seen the new holeshots for the buggys they look pretty good none for truggy though.
The I-beams last forever man lol.
Although ive seen the new holeshots for the buggys they look pretty good none for truggy though.
The I-beams last forever man lol.
12-22-2011, 08:16 PM
#38
You can get a new Tamiya TRF801Xt truggy for $229 new. Just kiddin.
Maybe you should slow down, close your eyes and just pick one. The differences between the various RTR models isn't really that much. It sounds like your chances of racing in the near future are minimal, so have fun with a RTR. You've already gone through the
OFNA Ultra LX2
Hyper7
Losi810
Inferno NEO Type-1
Jammin X1
Maybe you should slow down, close your eyes and just pick one. The differences between the various RTR models isn't really that much. It sounds like your chances of racing in the near future are minimal, so have fun with a RTR. You've already gone through the
OFNA Ultra LX2
Hyper7
Losi810
Inferno NEO Type-1
Jammin X1
12-22-2011, 09:30 PM
#39
Big races. I live in Austin, TX and we have been without a track for the last year. Just got a new one opened. So rather than club racing, I traveled every weekend I could to most of the major events in this region. Huge learning experience and opened my eyes to a lot.
12-27-2011, 01:23 AM
#40
as a Truggy Driver as and of corse a Buggy driver, i'll travel all over the U.S.
some good notes are pointed out in a few areas here...some may or may not
relate to your Region.
i'll point out some items in "RED"
but best bet go with what you want to go with be it buggy or Truck
both are a blast......
[QUOTE=tc5 man;10070564]Lets just say this if your track is rough you will usually see more truggys than buggys
under "Some Circumstances but not always" if the track gets really blown out for your Region, follow what most drivers in your areas are using,
then if the need arises you can go to the local drivers for great "Advice"
Here in the northeast at tracks that are big and have flowing turns the truggy class is pretty good. On meduim size tracks for 1/8 and 1/10 scale with tighter turns there is more buggys than truggys.
again, kinda go with your Region on platforms most drivers are using.
The pros of a buggy
1. The tires are cheaper
yes, to a point,in some cases if to stay "Compeditive"
you end up going through a set in 2 race days may want to do a little research to see in your Areas what can even out better?
2. There easier on the drivetrain not by a whole lot though.
this will vary GREATLY on the "Driver" them selves...
some drivers go through the buggy drivetrain faster then others.
a smooth driver for instance? can have the Ability for the drivetrain
to last a long time and double this if they replace the "Drive Pins"
3. Turns on a dime very nimble
normally this is true,
4. Forces you to drive smoother
this will vary from driver to driver
but you do have to be a little more "Focused"
in the General "Norm"
The cons of buggy
1. Not the best on rough tracks the rc8b.2 is good on it ive noticed.
again,check your Region for what most drivers in your areas
seem to favor,a good driver can make a luchbox with wheels look good.
but some are a little easier straight out of the box
Mugen and Losi's are 2 of the top runners and there "Stock set ups"
on both are bout 90% there at most tracks and conditions.
but then again many will argue this since can be like a "Ford vs. Chevy" thing.
2. Harder to drive fast and be fast so its not for everybody
this will depend on the "Driver" some are able to drive buggies better
than others..??? some just have a "Natural Talent"
but should not be a deciding factor,like anything with some
practice and some advice from your Local fast drivers,will be a little easier.
3. tires dont last nearly as long as truggy tires
sometimes but again not "Always True" check your local areas
and ask around but a Smooth driver there tires last quite longer
but in the early stages starting out most are on the throttle
in every corner on entry and exit so tire wear is BIG Variable here...
The pros of truggy
1. There a blast to drive pretty forgiving for anybody to drive hard
for sure this is no where true...
yes super fun to drive,but sometimes because they are bigger
can be harder to drive harder and "Faster"
sometimes not always but sometimes need to be more "Focused"
to drive them on edge as fast as Buggies.
Weight transfer is "Different" so in General they are more Forgiving
to a point...
2. Good on rough tracks just soaks up the bumps depends on setups also
key word yes, will depend on "Set Up"
sometimes on a blown out track you may see buggies seem like they tip-toe
right though bad areas and trucks seem like there "Bouncing around"
3. Tires are more expensive but last a long time
"Again" check out Question 1 from "Pros of using a buggy"
4. They just look good !
The cons of truggy
1. Drivetrain and supension parts do wear out faster but not real bad though
"Again" this will vary GREATLY",have seen some truggy drivers have there
drivetrains last 3 times longer than there buggy counter parts.
and some last a few weeks.
and depending on what Manufacture you deciding on using?
this again is a "Ford vs. Chevy thing"
Ironicly most manufactures have there items Sub-contracted out.
so 99.9999999 of most enthusiast have no idea that the parts
from 2 compleatly different "Manufactures" have parts made by the
"Same sub-contractors"
so 99% of the cars and trucks out there there parts top notch..
but will vary again from driver to driver
driving tactics and style will play a part in "Wear" and or Breakage,but not in every case.
a platform is only as good as the parts you can "Get when you need them"
2. They dont jump as good as buggys but it will make you correct yourself more in the air.
this as well will vary Greatly,but they both jump well...
a badly set of rc car of any type will handle ill...
but should not be a deciding factor in what to get.
3. They drive like a truck so they dont turn on a dime.
again this can vary "GREATLY" but in "General" yes a buggy is a
little more nimble in "Mid Corner"
4. Runtime is less than running a buggy because of weight.
well this can vary in both directions,
if your running "Electric" yes a buggy will have a better run time.
unless your running a 6s pack with 1400 and 1500 kv motors in a truck.
we do it all the time and get an average of around 25 to 29 minutes
per pack in "Truggy" a slight suspenshion change,and properly geared
they run as well as there Nitro counterparts.
but most will use 4s packs so most buggies can get easily 15 minutes
usually more but will depepnd on driver,track-conditions,track size etc.
and truggies can get about 10 to 12 but can vary....
HOWEVER, in the Nitro realms, buggies on "Average" can get about
8 to 9 minutes on a tank of Fuel,but not unusual to from time to time
see a driver get up to 10 sometimes 11 minutes ....
but in truggy with a .21 "Type Motor" normal is around 10 min. "Easily"
some drivers at our local tracks have been known to get
sometimes 13 minutes!
and runtimes are measured in "Hours" as long as the Receievr pack holds out
so as long as you pit can stay running for as long as an Hour and a half
with some of the new Li-Po rec.Packs....
some good notes are pointed out in a few areas here...some may or may not
relate to your Region.
i'll point out some items in "RED"
but best bet go with what you want to go with be it buggy or Truck
both are a blast......
[QUOTE=tc5 man;10070564]Lets just say this if your track is rough you will usually see more truggys than buggys
under "Some Circumstances but not always" if the track gets really blown out for your Region, follow what most drivers in your areas are using,
then if the need arises you can go to the local drivers for great "Advice"
Here in the northeast at tracks that are big and have flowing turns the truggy class is pretty good. On meduim size tracks for 1/8 and 1/10 scale with tighter turns there is more buggys than truggys.
again, kinda go with your Region on platforms most drivers are using.
The pros of a buggy
1. The tires are cheaper
yes, to a point,in some cases if to stay "Compeditive"
you end up going through a set in 2 race days may want to do a little research to see in your Areas what can even out better?
2. There easier on the drivetrain not by a whole lot though.
this will vary GREATLY on the "Driver" them selves...
some drivers go through the buggy drivetrain faster then others.
a smooth driver for instance? can have the Ability for the drivetrain
to last a long time and double this if they replace the "Drive Pins"
3. Turns on a dime very nimble
normally this is true,
4. Forces you to drive smoother
this will vary from driver to driver
but you do have to be a little more "Focused"
in the General "Norm"
The cons of buggy
1. Not the best on rough tracks the rc8b.2 is good on it ive noticed.
again,check your Region for what most drivers in your areas
seem to favor,a good driver can make a luchbox with wheels look good.
but some are a little easier straight out of the box
Mugen and Losi's are 2 of the top runners and there "Stock set ups"
on both are bout 90% there at most tracks and conditions.
but then again many will argue this since can be like a "Ford vs. Chevy" thing.
2. Harder to drive fast and be fast so its not for everybody
this will depend on the "Driver" some are able to drive buggies better
than others..??? some just have a "Natural Talent"
but should not be a deciding factor,like anything with some
practice and some advice from your Local fast drivers,will be a little easier.
3. tires dont last nearly as long as truggy tires
sometimes but again not "Always True" check your local areas
and ask around but a Smooth driver there tires last quite longer
but in the early stages starting out most are on the throttle
in every corner on entry and exit so tire wear is BIG Variable here...
The pros of truggy
1. There a blast to drive pretty forgiving for anybody to drive hard
for sure this is no where true...
yes super fun to drive,but sometimes because they are bigger
can be harder to drive harder and "Faster"
sometimes not always but sometimes need to be more "Focused"
to drive them on edge as fast as Buggies.
Weight transfer is "Different" so in General they are more Forgiving
to a point...
2. Good on rough tracks just soaks up the bumps depends on setups also
key word yes, will depend on "Set Up"
sometimes on a blown out track you may see buggies seem like they tip-toe
right though bad areas and trucks seem like there "Bouncing around"
3. Tires are more expensive but last a long time
"Again" check out Question 1 from "Pros of using a buggy"
4. They just look good !
The cons of truggy
1. Drivetrain and supension parts do wear out faster but not real bad though
"Again" this will vary GREATLY",have seen some truggy drivers have there
drivetrains last 3 times longer than there buggy counter parts.
and some last a few weeks.
and depending on what Manufacture you deciding on using?
this again is a "Ford vs. Chevy thing"
Ironicly most manufactures have there items Sub-contracted out.
so 99.9999999 of most enthusiast have no idea that the parts
from 2 compleatly different "Manufactures" have parts made by the
"Same sub-contractors"
so 99% of the cars and trucks out there there parts top notch..
but will vary again from driver to driver
driving tactics and style will play a part in "Wear" and or Breakage,but not in every case.
a platform is only as good as the parts you can "Get when you need them"
2. They dont jump as good as buggys but it will make you correct yourself more in the air.
this as well will vary Greatly,but they both jump well...
a badly set of rc car of any type will handle ill...
but should not be a deciding factor in what to get.
3. They drive like a truck so they dont turn on a dime.
again this can vary "GREATLY" but in "General" yes a buggy is a
little more nimble in "Mid Corner"
4. Runtime is less than running a buggy because of weight.
well this can vary in both directions,
if your running "Electric" yes a buggy will have a better run time.
unless your running a 6s pack with 1400 and 1500 kv motors in a truck.
we do it all the time and get an average of around 25 to 29 minutes
per pack in "Truggy" a slight suspenshion change,and properly geared
they run as well as there Nitro counterparts.
but most will use 4s packs so most buggies can get easily 15 minutes
usually more but will depepnd on driver,track-conditions,track size etc.
and truggies can get about 10 to 12 but can vary....
HOWEVER, in the Nitro realms, buggies on "Average" can get about
8 to 9 minutes on a tank of Fuel,but not unusual to from time to time
see a driver get up to 10 sometimes 11 minutes ....
but in truggy with a .21 "Type Motor" normal is around 10 min. "Easily"
some drivers at our local tracks have been known to get
sometimes 13 minutes!
and runtimes are measured in "Hours" as long as the Receievr pack holds out
so as long as you pit can stay running for as long as an Hour and a half
with some of the new Li-Po rec.Packs....
12-27-2011, 02:14 AM
#41
If you want some competition, go buggy. The skill leven is buggy is usually higher than in the truggy class.
A buggy is harder to drive which keeps the learning curve high, but this makes you a better driver.
A buggy is harder to drive which keeps the learning curve high, but this makes you a better driver.
12-27-2011, 09:10 AM
#42
Thanks for the info Blade. I come to a conclusion I went ahead and went with the buggy, I will be in the market for a good used truggy though as well.
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