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Durango DNX408 - Fast enough to win the World Title.

Old 05-17-2013, 09:05 AM
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Both will fit with some trimming.

Proline 2012 Bulldog for Losi (electric) for my DEX408
Proline 2012 Bulldog for Losi (nitro) for my DNX408

In the process of airbrushing the bodies, will post it tomorrow when I am done.

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JC Finisher for Losi



PL Bulldog for Losi



PL Bulldog 2012 for Losi (on DEX408 but think it will fit DNX fine)

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Old 05-18-2013, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by EvanAZ
Alum or TI turnbuckles???

I like the orange alum. turnbuckles has anyone had issues with them bending?
I bent a rear one
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:27 AM
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Can you guys help me up for a starting suspension setup for my DNX? It's converted so it weights a bit more than the nitro

I race on bumpy and technical tracks with few jumps. The ground is hard and provides medium grip with a litlle dust on top (racing line clearly visible)

any idea of springs/ oil/ pistons for these conditions? thanks!
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:03 PM
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Everyone is begging me not to buy a dnx408. Everyone in at my lhs and track seem to hate them yet no one has every ran one. I get the "I knew someone..." why am I getting all this negative vibe?
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Originally Posted by Fatam
Everyone is begging me not to buy a dnx408. Everyone in at my lhs and track seem to hate them yet no one has every ran one. I get the "I knew someone..." why am I getting all this negative vibe?
Most of the people are loyal to one brand or another so I wouldn't put much stock into what people are saying unless they've owned one and given it a chance to tune it on a track.

I've owned Losi 8ight's both buggy and truggy, Hot Bodies Ve8(HHH) ebuggy, D8 Hara and D8T, all were great once I was able to get it tuned for my driving style.

The Durango is new but to be honest it's my favorite so far.
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:39 AM
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+1 everybody says the durango is bad and it's the best car we've driven

drive the car you like! people are brainwashed anyway
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Originally Posted by Pulse_
+1 everybody says the durango is bad and it's the best car we've driven

drive the car you like! people are brainwashed anyway
Plenty of haters and people who just state their opinion as fact. If you can test drive somebody else's at the track, thats a good way to see if the car suits you. Obviously bare in mind the persons car maybe setup for their style of driving, not yours.

Do your research. Look at maintenance, and parts availability and price. Tons of info on here and the TD community is always very willing to help and the Pro drivers are very accessible.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatam
Everyone is begging me not to buy a dnx408. Everyone in at my lhs and track seem to hate them yet no one has every ran one. I get the "I knew someone..." why am I getting all this negative vibe?
The same thing happened to me last year. Even after I announced that I switched, I still got comments saying that I made a HUGE mistake. But after they actually see my DNX408 on the track, people's opinion has changed. Most of the people that had the negative comments knew someone that expected the car would drive the exact same way as a previous car, like a Losi. The DNX408 is not a Losi and drives differently. Every car has its own characteristics and it will take some time to setup a car to your liking. The quality of the car is very good and once you setup the car to your driving style, it works very well and is very predictable!!! The DNX408 is very responsive to even small setup changes. If you feel like you should follow the crowd, drive what they drive. If you want to take a chance and like to spend some time working on setups (using available setups as a base if needed), then I would suggest to take the chance and you will not regret it.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:11 AM
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The thing is, Durango was/is a boutique brand. They make high end innovative products, and the problem with that is that it often attracts guys with more money than talent. They think, "Oh, the Durango is exclusive and kind of expensive. I have the money, and like to have things that not many other people have, the Durango is the car for me."

Basically there are two design philosophies in 1/8th scale. The Losi (and Durango) have a more offset driveline, with all the weight centered. This makes them nimble, but kind of aggressive. You throw a Losi or Durango in the hands of someone who has very little talent (the guys who often buy Durango for the reasons I mentioned earlier), and they struggle. They don't know what setup changes to make to get the car to work, but because the Losi is so ubiquitous, there is a setup out for it from a driver that just happens to like a more stable car. So they can get the Losi to work, even though they can't set up their car to save their life. This makes the Durango look bad to all the sheeple who race where you race.

The other design philosophy is that of the Kyosho (and just about every other blanking company that tries to copy the K car), which is a more centered driveline, and the weight spread out a bit further. These types of car have a wide profile, but they tend to be a bit more on the lazy side, which for the average, I have almost no setup knowledge, I just copy a setup sheet type of driver, works well.

If you are a good driver, who knows which setup changes yield what results, then the Durango will be a good car for you. I bet there is one guy where you race that is faster than everyone else. He rarely gets beat at that track, so everyone runs what he runs because they think that is the only way to go fast.
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Originally Posted by Pulse_
Can you guys help me up for a starting suspension setup for my DNX? It's converted so it weights a bit more than the nitro

I race on bumpy and technical tracks with few jumps. The ground is hard and provides medium grip with a litlle dust on top (racing line clearly visible)

any idea of springs/ oil/ pistons for these conditions? thanks!
The best that i have found for nitro is -

Front
1.4*4 - 37.5 - White/Orange Spring

Rear
1.4*5 - 35 - White/Black Spring

You should also check some of lutz DEX setups and mayb add another hole to the rear piston if its bumpy
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I had multiple people tell me I made a mistake by switching to Durango! Most of the talk is from people who have never even owned one or taken the time to figure the car out when the did have it. It only took a couple set up changes for me to get my DNX408 and DNX408T dialed in. I love them now. Yes they are different from the standard 1/8 platform as far as lay out but with a little fine tuning and patience, they will perform.
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:52 AM
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The best way I can describe this car to anyone that doesn't own one, is that it is absolutely not a car that you can simply put a pro drivers setup on and go. When I originally got the kit I did that, and wasn't pleased. Since then I've started with a neutral setup and made changes to suit my driving style. Since then, the only real changes I make between tracks are to shock oil and spring rates (clutch and tires are typically the first adjsutment made).

If you have just a bit of setup lknowledge, this car is fantastic. You change something and the next time out you can really feel the difference it made. That said, if you want a car you can just dump a pro setup on and drop it on the track and race, this is probably not the car for you. Personally, I really appreciate the engineering of the car, and the durability is second to none.
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Originally Posted by stg099
The best way I can describe this car to anyone that doesn't own one, is that it is absolutely not a car that you can simply put a pro drivers setup on and go. When I originally got the kit I did that, and wasn't pleased. Since then I've started with a neutral setup and made changes to suit my driving style. Since then, the only real changes I make between tracks are to shock oil and spring rates (clutch and tires are typically the first adjsutment made).

If you have just a bit of setup lknowledge, this car is fantastic. You change something and the next time out you can really feel the difference it made. That said, if you want a car you can just dump a pro setup on and drop it on the track and race, this is probably not the car for you. Personally, I really appreciate the engineering of the car, and the durability is second to none.
+1

tried Ryan's set ups and ended up tuning a bit more to get to where I wanted on it, in fact shortened the front camber links last night and hope to get it back out today to see how it handles.
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Wat is the reason for having the rear shocks mounted forwards on the tower?
Is this just coming from the design of the ep cars? And Wat difference does it really make to the car?
I see a lot of ppl on here have a good imagination with a few different tricks. Nice work from the guy designing those sway bar holders
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Originally Posted by Tyson72
WHat is the reason for having the rear shocks mounted forwards on the tower?
Is this just coming from the design of the ep cars? And WHat difference does it really make to the car?
I see a lot of ppl on here have a good imagination with a few different tricks. Nice work from the guy designing those sway bar holders
It is the same reason why anything else on any other car is the way it is. Because the engineers designed it that way. The weight of the shocks being within the wheelbase will effect the handling due to centralization of mass. Moving the shocks to the rear of the shock tower is just a way to change the weight bias of the car. Rudimentary design concepts really. Some of us have been doing this for a long time, we get it. If you don't get it, don't question it.
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