Truggy Worlds
11-18-2010, 11:53 AM
#76
No, I was just saying that most (RC-starting) Truggy drivers are just clubracers and do not care to go on with the next level. I do think truggy racing has to grow more and get their own national heroes to be worlds worthy without putting the pressure on other factory drivers (for sure with the still going on financial crisis).
Take a look into 1/10 and 1/8 onroad, in the top of both worlds you do see the same names and that will be the same with the buggy and truggy worlds, the same is with the 1/12 pancar and 1/10 touring worlds which actually are driven on the same event.
Realy, how many clubracers are interested into racing a worlds if it is not in the neighburehood? The interest in local clubracing does not give any realistic picture to predict the number of racers going to the worlds.
Take a look into 1/10 and 1/8 onroad, in the top of both worlds you do see the same names and that will be the same with the buggy and truggy worlds, the same is with the 1/12 pancar and 1/10 touring worlds which actually are driven on the same event.
Realy, how many clubracers are interested into racing a worlds if it is not in the neighburehood? The interest in local clubracing does not give any realistic picture to predict the number of racers going to the worlds.
I think there sould be a truggy worlds. I think it would come down to who is the best driver not so much who's car stays together the longest. Some of the best races this year have been in the truggy class. The Dirt Nitro Challenge truggy race this year was one of the best races I have seen all year.
11-18-2010, 12:06 PM
#77
Well for some input from this neck of the woods, truggy is by far the more popular class on club race days. We usually have two full heats of truggies sometimes three and at the same time usually cannot fill a heat with buggies. Actually our short course numbers far exceed buggy. Monster truck and buggies sometimes have to run together due to numbers and that can be comical to watch
I'm all for a Truggy Worlds! ( and no, I would never ever make it there myself!)
I'm all for a Truggy Worlds! ( and no, I would never ever make it there myself!)
11-18-2010, 12:11 PM
#78
Well for some input from this neck of the woods, truggy is by far the more popular class on club race days. We usually have two full heats of truggies sometimes three and at the same time usually cannot fill a heat with buggies. Actually our short course numbers far exceed buggy. Monster truck and buggies sometimes have to run together due to numbers and that can be comical to watch
I'm all for a Truggy Worlds! ( and no, I would never ever make it there myself!)
I'm all for a Truggy Worlds! ( and no, I would never ever make it there myself!)
same here in the northeast in pa and some nj tracks the truggys have 2 or more classes compared to buggy.
11-18-2010, 12:37 PM
#80
[QUOTE=Matt Piva;8226096]Ifmar would never organize this race simply because 1/8th scale has 1 champion and not 2, having a worlds for 1/8th scale truck would take away value of the buggy worlds and who won, it would never happen because of this reason, ifmar wants to give 1 person a crown as who is best with 1/8th scale machines, having 2 worlds in offroad 1/8th scale would mean 2 winners and that would be the problem with the event, not to mention companies sending as many people to another country as they do already for this years worlds it just wouldn't be possible and the race wouldn't have the drivers there to race, also many companies that do well in buggy don't even have a truggy to race therefore leaving more of the top racers out. So knowing these things would u still like to ask why there's no ifmar wc for truggies? Taking away from the buggy wc would b enough reason to rule it out for them, they won't hurt the prestigiousness of the biggest race there is for rc cars, EVER!
Funny man,
Biggest race there is for R/C cars? EVER? In offroad, maybe. Nitro Offroad, I'll give you that one. If I had to pick one rac ethat to me would be the biggest one, I'd go with 1/8th Onroad as they are the F1 of R/C. Just saying.
Couple of questions for you. With there being seperate World Champions for 2wd and 4wd in the 1/10th Worlds, does one take away from the other? I don't think so, but maybe I missed something along the way. Are you saying that there should only be One World Champion for a given Worlds event? Just asking.
It seems to me that IFMAR likes car and buggy classes over anything else and being that they are the ones to decide what a Worlds event is and is not, it's their call.
Funny man,
Biggest race there is for R/C cars? EVER? In offroad, maybe. Nitro Offroad, I'll give you that one. If I had to pick one rac ethat to me would be the biggest one, I'd go with 1/8th Onroad as they are the F1 of R/C. Just saying.
Couple of questions for you. With there being seperate World Champions for 2wd and 4wd in the 1/10th Worlds, does one take away from the other? I don't think so, but maybe I missed something along the way. Are you saying that there should only be One World Champion for a given Worlds event? Just asking.
It seems to me that IFMAR likes car and buggy classes over anything else and being that they are the ones to decide what a Worlds event is and is not, it's their call.
11-18-2010, 12:43 PM
#82
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If one day IFMAR decides to have a Truggy Worlds, they just have to do it. All pro racers will sign up for the event for sure.
It is not a matter of having racers to fill the class, it is a matter of having the event
It is not a matter of having racers to fill the class, it is a matter of having the event
11-18-2010, 02:40 PM
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I agree, I think that Truggy needs to prove itself to warrant a worlds caliber competition. After the way that monster truck class came and went, it would be only sensible for organizers to be cautious.
It's like with any new RC category: manufacturers try to come up with a new category in the hope of generating new sales & excitement to broaden the market. Some categories flourish, some don't. That's RC for ya
It's like with any new RC category: manufacturers try to come up with a new category in the hope of generating new sales & excitement to broaden the market. Some categories flourish, some don't. That's RC for ya
11-18-2010, 11:55 PM
#85
The IFMAR is formed by the blocks like EFRA FEMCA and ROAR. Those organisations have to put in the new classes and provide the rules for that section.
11-19-2010, 12:25 AM
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Funny man,
Biggest race there is for R/C cars? EVER? In offroad, maybe. Nitro Offroad, I'll give you that one. If I had to pick one rac ethat to me would be the biggest one, I'd go with 1/8th Onroad as they are the F1 of R/C. Just saying.
Couple of questions for you. With there being seperate World Champions for 2wd and 4wd in the 1/10th Worlds, does one take away from the other? I don't think so, but maybe I missed something along the way. Are you saying that there should only be One World Champion for a given Worlds event? Just asking.
It seems to me that IFMAR likes car and buggy classes over anything else and being that they are the ones to decide what a Worlds event is and is not, it's their call.
In my eyes 1/8th scale is the best class there is to win, there's just so much to offroad that onroad doesn't have and in my opinion it makes the racing more of a challenge therefor showing the better driver, that's why u see the 'big names' at the top 100% of the time and you don't see that kind of consistency with onroad. Sorry to say offroad 1/8 scale is a challenge that's much different then onroad and that's my opinion, now for your second question, I do believe 2wd and 4wd worlds take alot away from eachother and that's why it's not as prestigious and important to watch for the fans, however I'm taking nothing away with those events because there is a difference between the 2 and a big one, 2wd n 4wd drive completely different and are completely different chassis and honestly u can see the difference when u look at the 2. 8th scale buggies and truggies almost have the exact same chassis layouts down to the length of shocks and most parts are interchangeable if u run the same buggy truggy brand, all that's really different is longer chassis wider arms and bigger tires, so why do u need to prove another winner of the same machine? there's no reason for truggy n it would take away from the buggy champ, sorry :/
11-19-2010, 12:35 AM
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Wow bro calm down u don't need to come at me all tuff like that, jk
In my eyes 1/8th scale is the best class there is to win, there's just so much to offroad that onroad doesn't have and in my opinion it makes the racing more of a challenge therefor showing the better driver, that's why u see the 'big names' at the top 100% of the time and you don't see that kind of consistency with onroad. Sorry to say offroad 1/8 scale is a challenge that's much different then onroad and that's my opinion, now for your second question, I do believe 2wd and 4wd worlds take alot away from eachother and that's why it's not as prestigious and important to watch for the fans, however I'm taking nothing away with those events because there is a difference between the 2 and a big one, 2wd n 4wd drive completely different and are completely different chassis and honestly u can see the difference when u look at the 2. 8th scale buggies and truggies almost have the exact same chassis layouts down to the length of shocks and most parts are interchangeable if u run the same buggy truggy brand, all that's really different is longer chassis wider arms and bigger tires, so why do u need to prove another winner of the same machine? there's no reason for truggy n it would take away from the buggy champ, sorry :/
In my eyes 1/8th scale is the best class there is to win, there's just so much to offroad that onroad doesn't have and in my opinion it makes the racing more of a challenge therefor showing the better driver, that's why u see the 'big names' at the top 100% of the time and you don't see that kind of consistency with onroad. Sorry to say offroad 1/8 scale is a challenge that's much different then onroad and that's my opinion, now for your second question, I do believe 2wd and 4wd worlds take alot away from eachother and that's why it's not as prestigious and important to watch for the fans, however I'm taking nothing away with those events because there is a difference between the 2 and a big one, 2wd n 4wd drive completely different and are completely different chassis and honestly u can see the difference when u look at the 2. 8th scale buggies and truggies almost have the exact same chassis layouts down to the length of shocks and most parts are interchangeable if u run the same buggy truggy brand, all that's really different is longer chassis wider arms and bigger tires, so why do u need to prove another winner of the same machine? there's no reason for truggy n it would take away from the buggy champ, sorry :/
11-19-2010, 05:35 AM
#88
I would love to see a truggy worlds, here in Australia truggy is still very popular and having a truggy worlds can only be a good positive thing for the rc racing industry worldwide.
11-19-2010, 10:51 AM
#90
Matt P,
Thanks for answering the questions. For me, Onroad and Offroad are two different animals and I like both for different reasons. I do agree that Offroad is more fun to watch, then again I'll watch just about any type of racing. My point with the 2wd and 4wd was to show that IFMAR already offers two Championships for the same scale, 1/10th. I understand that the drivetrain is different between them and probably explains why they have both. The thing is that both the 2wd and 4wd's do share many parts bewtween them, just as the Buggy and truggy do. Basically the point was to show that it could be done in 1/8th, but IFMAR hasn't decided to.
Thanks for answering the questions. For me, Onroad and Offroad are two different animals and I like both for different reasons. I do agree that Offroad is more fun to watch, then again I'll watch just about any type of racing. My point with the 2wd and 4wd was to show that IFMAR already offers two Championships for the same scale, 1/10th. I understand that the drivetrain is different between them and probably explains why they have both. The thing is that both the 2wd and 4wd's do share many parts bewtween them, just as the Buggy and truggy do. Basically the point was to show that it could be done in 1/8th, but IFMAR hasn't decided to.