Turning Wheels MID JUMP/ In Air ?
#16
I personally dont think turning the wheels in flight after a straught launch does much except for making urself look cool.......... what DOES do alot for setting up a landing at the right place or angle is giving the car a tiny twitch either way just as you leave the jump...... gets the car rotating in the air...... the rest of it is just for show and maybe have the wheels pointed in the right direction ............... flame suit on......
#17
The first lap on that video looks like bubba stewart on a supercross track scrubbing the jumps
#20
Tech Rookie
Thread Starter
The terms are "Scrubbing" "Tail whip" or "Whipping" and "Flying" (as in flying the car mid air)
Scrubbing; Is used to get the car to come off of the jump in a desired angle. To land the car pointed into a corner. "Flying the car" is needed in most cases to land correctly.
Whipping; Is the use of scrubbing but coming off of the jump face straight, slightly steering one way and then going full lock the other direction to gyroscopically kick the rear end out. This allows you to scrub, without interfering with another car that may be coming off of the same jump.
Flying; Is a general term used to describe the use of steering, throttle, brakes or all three in mid air.
Scrubbing; Is used to get the car to come off of the jump in a desired angle. To land the car pointed into a corner. "Flying the car" is needed in most cases to land correctly.
Whipping; Is the use of scrubbing but coming off of the jump face straight, slightly steering one way and then going full lock the other direction to gyroscopically kick the rear end out. This allows you to scrub, without interfering with another car that may be coming off of the same jump.
Flying; Is a general term used to describe the use of steering, throttle, brakes or all three in mid air.
#21
Quad and Jmax have it right. In motoX they use that to stay low and actually prevent slowing too much in the air. Your ALWAYS faster on the ground than in the air! Just my MX experience talking.... still new to RC!
Not to say its faster to single out than tripling just that extra air will slow you down with drag and trajectory...
My $.02
Not to say its faster to single out than tripling just that extra air will slow you down with drag and trajectory...
My $.02
#22
Tech Champion
iTrader: (25)
It's used to control the car mid-flight. I was watching some ROAR races on youtube and not sure how I came across this video, but it shows some pretty good car control. Check the last double in front of the drivers stand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Yr5...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Yr5...eature=related
#23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtloJ...eature=related
Watch at :45. I have been trying to steer in the air more like that to help me in iffy situations. Now when the car gets out of shape on the jump, I don't have a major heart attack. I just fix it.
Yes it does look super awesome, but I do feel more comfortable driving now.
Brad
Watch at :45. I have been trying to steer in the air more like that to help me in iffy situations. Now when the car gets out of shape on the jump, I don't have a major heart attack. I just fix it.
Yes it does look super awesome, but I do feel more comfortable driving now.
Brad
#24
Tech Master
iTrader: (34)
its cool and it does help. on a short double into a turn you can turn off the lip of the jump in the direction you want to turn at the lander, you can get about 45 degrees turned in the air (the more angle the less stable landing) and when you land you are most of the way around the corner. on bigger jumps or triples you can jump straight and turn the wheels opposite of how you want to turn when you land, just before you land you turn the wheels back in the direction you want to go. the earlier you turn the wheels the more angle you can get out of it. you have to do this one only if the car is jumping straight, if you have to correct the nose up/down while the wheels are turned the car will get sideways and wreck. it is helpful but very tricky, i try to limit it to 2 times per lap and just focus on staying right side up.
#25
Plus, it keeps your APM(action per minute) high during a race.
#26
If you think turning you wheels in mid air or before you leave the jump (scrub) does not help, you are not racing at your full potential or you are racing in europe with no jumps. Just watch someone like Ryan Maifield he does it second nature, it is part of his driving style and on Supercross style track it is a must. If you watch the video you can see Ryan fly (correct) the car with his front wheels then scrub the second double.
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#27
Tech Master
iTrader: (31)
The main reason for doing it in MX is to change lines. It wasn't until the last few years that riders made a major effort to scrub speed. It has been don't for a while, but not to the extent it is now. This is for several reasons I'm not going into now. You really aren't going to scrub much with and rc car, but you can change lines. A slight turn on the face of the jump will allow you to change lines in the air. You can hit the outside line on the face of a big jump and turn to the inside to set you up for the next corner. I did it all the time in MX but haven't found many places to use that in RC. not to mention it is a lot more difficult to hit the same line lap after lap in RC.
#29
The main reason for doing it in MX is to change lines. It wasn't until the last few years that riders made a major effort to scrub speed. It has been don't for a while, but not to the extent it is now. This is for several reasons I'm not going into now. You really aren't going to scrub much with and rc car, but you can change lines. A slight turn on the face of the jump will allow you to change lines in the air. You can hit the outside line on the face of a big jump and turn to the inside to set you up for the next corner. I did it all the time in MX but haven't found many places to use that in RC. not to mention it is a lot more difficult to hit the same line lap after lap in RC.
#30
Levels the car out and helps you as a driver not to blow through the suspension as a fast. So your not rebuilding shocks every weekend. Last but not least STYLE POINTS