wiping out clutch bearings
#16
Take that Werks clutch set-up and throw it in
the trash.
the trash.
Of course "joe go fast" is gonna' sing the praises of anything he just dropped a big pile of cheese on...."OMG the feel is just incredible!!!"...
sure it is.
Fact is...in power transmission...simpler is better nearly every time.
#17
How old is the clutch bell its self ? Do the bearing seat properly inside it with no play?
#18
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on another note how old is your engine?i have had this problem in the past it turned out the inner bearing of the motor had some play it got to a point one high rev on the starter box would take em out
#19
Brand new powerhouse modded jpx 28 and a p5x are doing the same thing.I have a pro twister modded os 25 coming this thusday.And i also have a novarossi 821 b coming aswell.So i'm not dealing with worn out stuff here.I've got some ceramic's coming and if that don't do it i'm will be done with the werks clutches.And will go to a 4 shoe set-up.Also the bells i'm using with the werks are brand new.
#20
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What car are you running?
Brand new powerhouse modded jpx 28 and a p5x are doing the same thing.I have a pro twister modded os 25 coming this thusday.And i also have a novarossi 821 b coming aswell.So i'm not dealing with worn out stuff here.I've got some ceramic's coming and if that don't do it i'm will be done with the werks clutches.And will go to a 4 shoe set-up.Also the bells i'm using with the werks are brand new.
#21
What type of engine mount are you using? I had the same problem with my 6t. I was eating bearings at the same rate you are. I tried my werks clutch. I tried my 3 shoe. I checked and checked the mesh, I checked and checked the play and it was still eating bearings.
Pro Twister Brian mentioned chassis flex so I dropped some cash on the King Headz extended engine mount and haven't had the problem since. Infact, I recycled two of my used bearings and they held up until I decided to replace them with new ones.
As of now I know of only one other racer that had the same problem with his 6t at the track. I told him my situation and he to bought the extended mount and it fixed his problem.
In my experience clutches don't cause this problem.
Pro Twister Brian mentioned chassis flex so I dropped some cash on the King Headz extended engine mount and haven't had the problem since. Infact, I recycled two of my used bearings and they held up until I decided to replace them with new ones.
As of now I know of only one other racer that had the same problem with his 6t at the track. I told him my situation and he to bought the extended mount and it fixed his problem.
In my experience clutches don't cause this problem.
#22
Have you tried TKO bearings? They are not ceramic, but they handle more axial load so they last longer. Also are you cleaning out the excess grease from the inner bearing?
I follow the advice I saw in a video interview with Richard Saxton... When doing clutch bearing maintenance, move the outer bearing to the inner position and put a new outer bearing. Only change one bearing at a time, but more often if needed. This keeps the grease out of the clutch bell.
I've tried the werks clutch and it works fine. I'm guessing excess chassis flex... is your chassis cracked. +1 on the extended motor mount...
I follow the advice I saw in a video interview with Richard Saxton... When doing clutch bearing maintenance, move the outer bearing to the inner position and put a new outer bearing. Only change one bearing at a time, but more often if needed. This keeps the grease out of the clutch bell.
I've tried the werks clutch and it works fine. I'm guessing excess chassis flex... is your chassis cracked. +1 on the extended motor mount...
#23
Or the bearings in the center diff or the center diff mount... this has happened to me a while ago when the losi 8ight first came out. I spent hundreds of dollars trying to figure it out. they said use ceramic @ 36 a set. blew those in seconds, they said the shaft on the engine - so I brought a new engine, after months of headaches I decided to change the center diff mount and waaa laaa not more problems........ just a thought.
#24
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I am sure someone will say no way you cant do that to this suggestion but I have been doing this for 3 years and I change my bearings just because they look old not because they are bad. I use metal shielded only, soak them in motor spray for hour or more to remove all grease, install them and make sure i have 1mm of back and forth play on the shaft, make sure the engine is perfectly perpendicular to the spur gear and set mesh with 2 peices of printer paper for 1/8th scale spurs. I set it so that when you pull out the paper it is snug to pull out but not so tight as to tear the papers when pulled on.
#25
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I am sure someone will say no way you cant do that to this suggestion but I have been doing this for 3 years and I change my bearings just because they look old not because they are bad. I use metal shielded only, soak them in motor spray for hour or more to remove all grease, install them and make sure i have 1mm of back and forth play on the shaft, make sure the engine is perfectly perpendicular to the spur gear and set mesh with 2 peices of printer paper for 1/8th scale spurs. I set it so that when you pull out the paper it is snug to pull out but not so tight as to tear the papers when pulled on.
#26
Not I, I just slap those bad boys on for qualifiers, and depending on the length of the main, change em..... I have about 100 of each size, and that works for me.
#28
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I guess you like a slippy clutch then. Because that's all you are doing running them with grease in them. Ever take your clutch apart after running bearings with grease? Notice all the greasy residue on the shoes? Where do you think that comes from? NO GREASE IN CLUTCH BEARINGS! A drop of bearing oil, yes, grease NO! Trust me Token, give it a try. Not only will the bearings themselves last longer, but the clutch will work much better and the shoes will last longer because of it. It's worth the little extra time it takes to do it. I buy my bearings in rolls of 10. I'll go through a whole roll and clean/oil them and put them back in the roll. Then they're always ready when I need them at the track. Give it a shot. Oh, for oil, I use a modified bearing oil that Racers Edge sells. TKO sells a nice bearing oil as well.
#30
I guess you like a slippy clutch then. Because that's all you are doing running them with grease in them. Ever take your clutch apart after running bearings with grease? Notice all the greasy residue on the shoes? Where do you think that comes from? NO GREASE IN CLUTCH BEARINGS! A drop of bearing oil, yes, grease NO! Trust me Token, give it a try. Not only will the bearings themselves last longer, but the clutch will work much better and the shoes will last longer because of it. It's worth the little extra time it takes to do it. I buy my bearings in rolls of 10. I'll go through a whole roll and clean/oil them and put them back in the roll. Then they're always ready when I need them at the track. Give it a shot. Oh, for oil, I use a modified bearing oil that Racers Edge sells. TKO sells a nice bearing oil as well.