1LikesNEW AGAMA A8 BUGGGY
03-13-2012, 02:30 PM
#7546
Tech Regular
Kortz Takes 2nd in a highly contested battle with Losi's Adam Drake.
Pre Production Agama Truggy
Pre Production Agama Truggy
03-13-2012, 05:54 PM
#7550
when the buggy first came out we all tried placing it in the side pocket holder but after some testing we noticed a bunch of us were having issues with our transponders not counting laps. so now we all run it in the front or rear radio box(which ever one you got you rx in) never had a problem since.
03-13-2012, 07:04 PM
#7551
Tech Apprentice
http://www.neobuggy.net/modules/news...?storyid=11737
I love how they fail to mention that Jeremy Kortz was leading by 9 sec past the halfway mark before his steering servo took a dump.
Kortz drove well all weekend and fell short from no fault of his own nor from any faulty Agama product.
We would like to congratulate Jeremy Kortz and the entire Agama Race team that attended the 2012 Psycho Nitro Blast! With 4 Agama buggies in the Pro A main it's clear that the Agama product is becoming a house hold name in competitive RC Racing.
I love how they fail to mention that Jeremy Kortz was leading by 9 sec past the halfway mark before his steering servo took a dump.
Kortz drove well all weekend and fell short from no fault of his own nor from any faulty Agama product.
We would like to congratulate Jeremy Kortz and the entire Agama Race team that attended the 2012 Psycho Nitro Blast! With 4 Agama buggies in the Pro A main it's clear that the Agama product is becoming a house hold name in competitive RC Racing.
Keimon
03-14-2012, 09:54 AM
#7554
diff between A8 and evo
fellas is there a diff between the agama with the silver towers and the one with black towers? if so explain thanks
03-14-2012, 10:17 AM
#7555
The only difference is color. The black ones are newer. But there is no difference between the towers or cars. The majority of the 2011 evo kits are black. However my 2011 evo cams with silver
03-14-2012, 12:22 PM
#7556
Tech Regular
Silver = Slightly older kit No biggie. I run gun metal on my ep and black on gp. Same stuff though. ; )
03-14-2012, 12:35 PM
#7557
Agama Short Course?
The Short Course class is hot down here and seems to be getting bigger by the month. I have noticed that there is a conversion for an X-Ray 1/8 Buggy and Mugen has a Short Course in the works that is based off of their ECO Buggy. There are some conversions already for the Mugen that have shortened arms and different towers as well.
So, I started researching the ROAR rules for Short Course and noticed that while it says 1/10, it gives wheelbase dimensions that are longer than an 1/8 Buggy, and just about the same width.
I'm reading about the X-Ray conversion, and it has been approved by ROAR and RC Pro according to their write-ups.
I contacted RC Pro and asked if conversions were allowed, and the reply was that yes, they are allowed, so long as they fit in the ROAR dimensions.
I track down the ROAR dimensions and they are as follows:
Item Limit Specification ( * measured axle center)
Wheel base* Minimum 320mm (12.59 in) Maximum 335mm (13.19 in)
Overall Length Minimum 511mm (20.10 in) Maximum 568mm (22.36 in)
Overall Width* Minimum 273mm (10.75 in) Maximum 296mm (11.65 in)
Vehicle Height Overall Minimum 199mm (7.835 in)
Wheel bead Inner Maximum 76.20mm (3.0 in)
diameter Outer Maximum 55.88mm (2.2 in)
Wheel bead width Maximum 39.37mm (1.55 in)
Wheel width Maximum 41.9mm (1.65 in)
Tires Diameter mounted Minimum 99mm (3.90 in)
Tire width mounted Maximum 46.99mm (1.85 in)
Dish Style Wheels Expressly Prohibited
Motor ANY ROAR Approved “05” Size Brushless Motor (i.e. 540 & 550 motors)
Battery ANY ROAR Apporved 2S LiPo (7.4volt), 6Cell NiMh (7.2volt), or 2S LiFe (6.6volt)
I start looking at 1/8 buggies that might could be converted, and notice that most fall into the wheelbase range above, but they're all 305-309mm wide.
Then, I notice that the specs on the Agama say it's 295mm wide. I look at some DE Racing 17mm SC Wheels and the rim sits flush with the wheel nut...........I think you can see where this is going
I have already seen SC converted 1/8 buggies running on the little Tekin 4-Pole SC motors and a 2S battery and they are pretty dang fast and manage to stay within temperature limits of the motor. And the one I saw ran with a 6000mah pack and made 10 minutes + 1 lap. There are new 6600mah 2S packs coming out that could help go a little farther as well.
So, does anyone have their chassis handy and could measure the actual "nut-to-nut" width (overall)?
If it's truly 295 as the specs say, then a couple of RPM body mounts for a Slash, a SC body, a 2S/ESC/4-Pole setup, and some DE racing 17mm SC rims/tires and you have yourself a ROAR and RC Pro Legal Agama Short Course!!!!!
So, I started researching the ROAR rules for Short Course and noticed that while it says 1/10, it gives wheelbase dimensions that are longer than an 1/8 Buggy, and just about the same width.
I'm reading about the X-Ray conversion, and it has been approved by ROAR and RC Pro according to their write-ups.
I contacted RC Pro and asked if conversions were allowed, and the reply was that yes, they are allowed, so long as they fit in the ROAR dimensions.
I track down the ROAR dimensions and they are as follows:
Item Limit Specification ( * measured axle center)
Wheel base* Minimum 320mm (12.59 in) Maximum 335mm (13.19 in)
Overall Length Minimum 511mm (20.10 in) Maximum 568mm (22.36 in)
Overall Width* Minimum 273mm (10.75 in) Maximum 296mm (11.65 in)
Vehicle Height Overall Minimum 199mm (7.835 in)
Wheel bead Inner Maximum 76.20mm (3.0 in)
diameter Outer Maximum 55.88mm (2.2 in)
Wheel bead width Maximum 39.37mm (1.55 in)
Wheel width Maximum 41.9mm (1.65 in)
Tires Diameter mounted Minimum 99mm (3.90 in)
Tire width mounted Maximum 46.99mm (1.85 in)
Dish Style Wheels Expressly Prohibited
Motor ANY ROAR Approved “05” Size Brushless Motor (i.e. 540 & 550 motors)
Battery ANY ROAR Apporved 2S LiPo (7.4volt), 6Cell NiMh (7.2volt), or 2S LiFe (6.6volt)
I start looking at 1/8 buggies that might could be converted, and notice that most fall into the wheelbase range above, but they're all 305-309mm wide.
Then, I notice that the specs on the Agama say it's 295mm wide. I look at some DE Racing 17mm SC Wheels and the rim sits flush with the wheel nut...........I think you can see where this is going
I have already seen SC converted 1/8 buggies running on the little Tekin 4-Pole SC motors and a 2S battery and they are pretty dang fast and manage to stay within temperature limits of the motor. And the one I saw ran with a 6000mah pack and made 10 minutes + 1 lap. There are new 6600mah 2S packs coming out that could help go a little farther as well.
So, does anyone have their chassis handy and could measure the actual "nut-to-nut" width (overall)?
If it's truly 295 as the specs say, then a couple of RPM body mounts for a Slash, a SC body, a 2S/ESC/4-Pole setup, and some DE racing 17mm SC rims/tires and you have yourself a ROAR and RC Pro Legal Agama Short Course!!!!!
03-14-2012, 02:07 PM
#7559
hideeho
I had noticed the same thing. my local track owner told me he would not allow a 1/8 to run in sc, even if it did fit the rules. I argued my case briefly that the scte was exactly that all ready & several companies were in planning stage for the same thing.
the main reason I was looking at it was durability. an 1/8 scale running a 4pole 540 or 550 on 2s would be literaly bullit proof. who knows, maybe he'll change his mind in the future & i'll make the conversion.
what i found when researching it is the rc8/.2e & the serpent 811be use wide hexes which can be cut down on a lathe to be made to fit 295mm with the nearly flush ae 8th sc wheels (de wheels apear to have slightly more offset, but that is based on photos not 1st hand experience). serpent actually has -2mm hexes you can order.
I will measure my agama when I get home this evening & let you know how wide the actual hexes are. i can tell you this now, the agama has little to no room to cut them down. I now have 2 guys running 811be's. i'll see if i can get a measurement of their width at the hexes this weekend.
good luck with your conversion. hopefully you wont run into the resistance i did.
I had noticed the same thing. my local track owner told me he would not allow a 1/8 to run in sc, even if it did fit the rules. I argued my case briefly that the scte was exactly that all ready & several companies were in planning stage for the same thing.
the main reason I was looking at it was durability. an 1/8 scale running a 4pole 540 or 550 on 2s would be literaly bullit proof. who knows, maybe he'll change his mind in the future & i'll make the conversion.
what i found when researching it is the rc8/.2e & the serpent 811be use wide hexes which can be cut down on a lathe to be made to fit 295mm with the nearly flush ae 8th sc wheels (de wheels apear to have slightly more offset, but that is based on photos not 1st hand experience). serpent actually has -2mm hexes you can order.
I will measure my agama when I get home this evening & let you know how wide the actual hexes are. i can tell you this now, the agama has little to no room to cut them down. I now have 2 guys running 811be's. i'll see if i can get a measurement of their width at the hexes this weekend.
good luck with your conversion. hopefully you wont run into the resistance i did.
03-14-2012, 04:24 PM
#7560
The biggest disadvantage is going to be the weight.
The more traditional SC's are probably much faster because of power-to-weight. I'm sure this would only really be exposed at the pro level, by those who can handle the power.
For average-Joe, the 1/8 buggy-based SC is probably faster. It'll be much easier to control with just a 2s setup in it's heavier platform and having a vehicle with mass will improve handling over the rough and lessen parachuting on jumps.
The more traditional SC's are probably much faster because of power-to-weight. I'm sure this would only really be exposed at the pro level, by those who can handle the power.
For average-Joe, the 1/8 buggy-based SC is probably faster. It'll be much easier to control with just a 2s setup in it's heavier platform and having a vehicle with mass will improve handling over the rough and lessen parachuting on jumps.