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bgbelden 07-26-2009 07:27 PM

Novarossi Plus 21-5K HELP
 
I have a Nova and it runs strong and clears everything but for the last 2 weekends in a row everytime i pit it flames out, either on pit road or right after leaving. My pitman has even been leaving a glow start on during fill up but it just doesn't run on pit road.
Less than 2 gallons, 2nd or 3rd plug (Nova).
It runs great everywhere on the track except pit road, any ideas ?

topcat-lll 07-27-2009 07:47 AM

What Temperature are you running, the nitro percentage of your fuel and what nova plug? I run 25% nitro and use a Mc8 plug in my 5k with out any
problems. Sounds like you're alittle rich on the bottom lean the lsn or try a
hotter plug.

bgbelden 07-27-2009 08:33 AM

It's had only 20% and i think i'm on my second Nova plug #4 maybe

PMDRC 07-27-2009 12:25 PM

Are you leaving your fuel bottle in the shade? Filling up cold fuel into a hot motor seems to cause this because of the rush of fuel into the carb. You can also run a empty fuel filter on the exhaust side to help equalize the fuel pressure.

bgbelden 07-27-2009 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by PMDRC (Post 6124001)
Are you leaving your fuel bottle in the shade? Filling up cold fuel into a hot motor seems to cause this because of the rush of fuel into the carb. You can also run a empty fuel filter on the exhaust side to help equalize the fuel pressure.

Yes my fuel is kept in the shade, but your the second one to recommend the fuel filter on the pressure line thanks.:tire::):):tire:

topcat-lll 07-27-2009 08:45 PM

Try a McCoy MC8 glow plug.

phoenix357 07-28-2009 04:14 AM

Run odonell plugs use the odo #100, theses plugs last a long time and tune vary easy and they are cheap.

Also tell your pit man when he fills thank not to let the tank lid slam down,this will force more fuel in the carb and flood you out.

elkman 07-28-2009 05:03 AM

Fuel line?
 
How long is your fuel line? My Engine guy (Monty Houston) says to run 8 inches of supply and pressure line. It absorbs the shock of the fuel lid slamming down.

token 07-28-2009 05:43 AM

I run the same engine in my buggy, run a Novarossi "Standard" #5 Ultra Glow Plug (Hot) - sorry but Mccoys are not high end plugs. it also sounds like your running fat on bottom and used your idle screw to bring up the idle.

What I would do is go back to factory settings - follow the tuning bible and you will be fine

I dont think fuel is the problwm, whether its in the shade or not. the engines like the cool nitro - that a part of the reason the we all use 30%

bgbelden 07-28-2009 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by phoenix357 (Post 6127630)
Run odonell plugs use the odo #100, theses plugs last a long time and tune vary easy and they are cheap.

Also tell your pit man when he fills thank not to let the tank lid slam down,this will force more fuel in the carb and flood you out.

I usually use 99's but i bought Nova 4's being it's a Nova

bgbelden 07-28-2009 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by elkman (Post 6127745)
How long is your fuel line? My Engine guy (Monty Houston) says to run 8 inches of supply and pressure line. It absorbs the shock of the fuel lid slamming down.

Fuel line and pressure are whatever came stock on the newest 8ight 2.0 (it comes with the nifty tank lid handle)

bgbelden 07-28-2009 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by token (Post 6127861)
I run the same engine in my buggy, run a Novarossi "Standard" #5 Ultra Glow Plug (Hot) - sorry but Mccoys are not high end plugs. it also sounds like your running fat on bottom and used your idle screw to bring up the idle.

What I would do is go back to factory settings - follow the tuning bible and you will be fine

I dont think fuel is the problwm, whether its in the shade or not. the engines like the cool nitro - that a part of the reason the we all use 30%

This is true i'm running a higher idle.

topcat-lll 07-28-2009 09:41 AM

I Have four Novarossi engines, love their engines but hate the plugs. McCoy 8
or an Odonnell #77 or #100 the #99 is too cold for 20% fuel trust me.

token 07-28-2009 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by topcat-lll (Post 6128821)
I Have four Novarossi engines, love their engines but hate the plugs. McCoy 8
or an Odonnell #77 or #100 the #99 is too cold for 20% fuel trust me.

If you have to use Mccoys- use the 59s, But mccoy plugs are not hig end plugs . Nova plugs are 200 percent better than mccoys, I love nova engines and plugs........

houston 07-28-2009 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by bgbelden (Post 6128720)
This is true i'm running a higher idle.

thats a terrible situation with your engine , hope i can help . ;)


use an inline fuel filter (even on your losi) , 8" of pressure return line , 7mm carb restrictor , odonnell #77 , sounds like you are really rich on the low speed and have just been leaning the high speed out since you broke the engine in ? , reset the carb , pull the slide barrel out screw the low needle in all the way and back out 3.75 turns , set the idle at about 1mm open or just a little less , hsn just in from flush with the brass housing .


i didn't notice what pipe you are running but it will run (terrible) with any pipe , just runs better with certain ones (ofna 063)


hope this helps ,
monty


oh , and use 30% or pull the shims on the underhead down to .60mm


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