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Larks 04-12-2009 08:54 PM

What foam filter treatment (oil) do you use?
 
I am looking for a cheaper alternative to the various 'r/c' brand tiny bottles of filter oil. Basically, those things are a rip off I know. I am sure that a good quality dirt bike air filter oil will work, like FFT Foam Filter Treatment, but I am not sure I like the idea of cleaning the filters in gasoline to get that stuff out. (yes I reuse my outers)

Anyone have experience with using other cost effective oils? Anyone have bad experiences with that?

BH 04-12-2009 08:56 PM

Larks, if you are going to be cleaning and re-using you might want to look into something that will clean with water like TKO's Rock Oil

www.tkocompetitiondev.com Peter is a great guy to deal with.

I've also used No-Toil with success as well.

Alan D. 04-12-2009 08:59 PM

Maxima air filter cleaner and air filter oil.
DIALED!

Larks 04-12-2009 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by BH (Post 5676359)
Larks, if you are going to be cleaning and re-using you might want to look into something that will clean with water like TKO's Rock Oil

www.tkocompetitiondev.com Peter is a great guy to deal with.

I've also used No-Toil with success as well.

Yah, I saw that and was interested. I did read that the one negative is that it expands rubber. That would really irritate me if enough got on my elbow to make it release from the carb!!!

Thanks for the suggestion. I am considering ordering some if they ever get some in stock.

Larks 04-12-2009 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Alan D. (Post 5676381)
Maxima air filter cleaner and air filter oil.
DIALED!

I have been using the oil, and OMG that stuff is sticky. I don't like it much because it is so messy. It also seems to 'cake' with the dust we have. After about 3-4 mins I need to pit just to change the thing. I didn't know they made a cleaner for it, that would help I suppose, however I am trying to find things that are easier on the environment, yet still work adequately.

Alan D. 04-12-2009 09:13 PM

With dust its always going to cake no matter what.
Sticky is good. Means nothing is going to get into your engine.

maxxman101 04-12-2009 09:13 PM

I use K&N air filter oil and cleaner. can get it for like $18 for the set at schucks or napa.

BH 04-12-2009 09:14 PM

Larks, I haven't ran into that issue with the rock oil. It will swell some filter elements at first, but once the alcohol has evaporated off the filter returns to it's original size.

I prefer Rock Oil and No-Toil.

I've used it all, PJ1, Maxima, etc. etc..........

Larks 04-12-2009 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Alan D. (Post 5676455)
With dust its always going to cake no matter what.
Sticky is good. Means nothing is going to get into your engine.

Well, I agree mostly, however this stuff turns black and cakes such that very little air gets through. I know sticky helps capture the smaller particles as well but I have used other oils that are not as sticky that seem to still do an adequate filtration job but don't cake. I have to change those after every heat, but my engine doesn't run differently half way through the heat.

Larks 04-12-2009 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by BH (Post 5676465)
Larks, I haven't ran into that issue with the rock oil. It will swell some filter elements at first, but once the alcohol has evaporated off the filter returns to it's original size.

I prefer Rock Oil and No-Toil.

I've used it all, PJ1, Maxima, etc. etc..........

Yes, thanks for the link. I might just order some directly from him. Amain is always back ordered.

I will also check into No-Toil.

I used PJ-1 (the spray) in the motorcross days. That stuff was just awesome, but it was at a different scale. I also wasn't concerned about the environment in those days unfortunately.

Peter Martin 04-12-2009 09:46 PM

Rock oil in stock on our site. We have tested it on all the OEM filters and it is just fine.

http://tkocompetitiondev.com/product...roducts_id=253

LosiMadMan 04-12-2009 09:48 PM

Rick Brakes custom made sealer and filter oil. RB mods.
www.rbmods.net

Joey Powell 04-12-2009 10:33 PM

Rock oil from TKO all the way. I come from an MX background, and I used to use Bel Ray or PJ1. The Rock oil works just as well but is SOOOO much easier to clean your filter. It doesn't hurt the rubber on the boot at all. It does swell some filters a little, but that doesn't have any ill affects either. Use it. You will love it.

Deznuts05 04-12-2009 10:43 PM

good ole palm olive or any dish soap to clean

and a zip lock back with a healthy coating of after run oil aka "atf" and drop into the zip lock until the white foam turns pink

done!

losi_racer 04-13-2009 12:07 AM

i just buy new filters, i run the same one for two 5 min qualifers, then replace the inner and outter with a new one for the main. i go racin every weekend and this cost me like 6 bucks a month doin it like this. well worth it in my opinion, you dont gotta worry about your filter going bad or having it oiled enough or to much

RX313BT 04-13-2009 01:28 AM

Have been using mugen filter oil for a while now and its great, cost me $20 australian for a large bottle and last for ages as only a small amount is needed, it is thin first out of the bottle so it spreads through the filter easily but dries sticky, but the only downside is its a bitch to clean out.

Larks 04-13-2009 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by Peter Martin (Post 5676606)
Rock oil in stock on our site. We have tested it on all the OEM filters and it is just fine.

http://tkocompetitiondev.com/product...roducts_id=253

I'm sold! You should be shipping some of that, and some lucky 7 engine sealant to my door. I will say it sucked to have to pay 8.50 shipping though.:flaming: (cheapest option available)

Thanks for all your help. I will try this stuff out and come back with my experiences!

Peter Martin 04-13-2009 08:10 PM

Thanks...I know about the shipping...it is a big bottle....heavy, but will last a LONG time.

Thanks again !!

Larks 04-13-2009 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Peter Martin (Post 5681106)
Thanks...I know about the shipping...it is a big bottle....heavy, but will last a LONG time.

Thanks again !!

By the way, thanks for the friendly customer interaction/support. So far your company is already a win in my book. Keep up the good work!:nod:

xxxrcnitro 04-13-2009 08:38 PM

I use Lucas gear oil @ auto parts store, sounds crazy but works great !!!

boostfiend 04-13-2009 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by maxxman101 (Post 5676457)
I use K&N air filter oil and cleaner. can get it for like $18 for the set at schucks or napa.

+1 - stuff works awesome!

CarCrazy 04-13-2009 10:06 PM

Use the stickiest oil you can find on both the inner and outer foam filters. Install one of these cheap dry layer ebay filter covers over the top, and you will be amazed! :nod:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...c/IMG_9667.jpg

Jaz240 04-13-2009 10:45 PM

I have been using the Dubro for 2 years and it rocks! It's the stickiest stuff I have ever seen..Dirt does not even make it into the inner ring. Bitch to clean it out though

ConciliumDesign 04-13-2009 11:16 PM

+1 on the K&N

Get the oil and cleaner kit and your set for a good long time.

zixxer 04-14-2009 03:13 AM

maxima ft1 foam filter oil ...just squeeze allt he excess out and your golden ....the only reason i never used k and n was beacause its for paper filters .not foam ...but alot of people use it amd seems to work fine ...

looper 04-14-2009 03:21 AM

i use silkolene. a mx foam filter oil, the price is right and this stuff is light and sticky.

a bottle of this is like 13 bucks and will last years. been working on this bottle now for 2 years and there is still alot left!

Frank L 04-14-2009 06:32 AM

I have used the mugen and it was way expensive and strange very watery then when it hits the air it thickens up. My fav right not is kyosho filter oil it's blue and has never let me down. Good stuff

~Driver~ 04-14-2009 07:47 AM

I use Associated filter treatment. I've been using it for 7 yrs. I don't trust anything else.

triplesix 04-15-2009 04:31 AM

P-S-R all the way!
Foam and oil. No dirt ever made it's way to the inner foam.
I'll add a prefilter just out of curiosity.

tristyn 04-15-2009 06:40 AM

I have been using PJ1 filter oil in a spray form. Works great last along time and is under 10 bucks. I have used this same oil on our motocross bikes for years and has proven to work good.

o.s. power 04-15-2009 03:50 PM

associated re-labels bel ray oil. works great and is pretty easy to clean. I mean, cliff lett worked for honda or was it yamaha?

kevinmajor 04-15-2009 04:47 PM

I use the PJ1 motorcycle filter oil. It's sticky as hell and does whats it is supposed to.

fast11970 04-15-2009 06:10 PM

SWAFF Rock oil...TKO its great stuff.

burnettk 04-15-2009 06:29 PM

i use the losi pre oiled filters. when im finished i just throw them away and buy new ones. usualy replace them after each race day. with a little grease on the ends their is no way for dirt to get through them. i used the rock oil before that. it worked good also.

throttle-out 04-15-2009 07:13 PM

pj1 foam filter oil in a spray can it lasts forever and only cost 8 bucks. The cleaner goes faster so use a zip loc bag to clean them in. I pick up the dirty filters at the track clean them and hand them out like candy the next week. I haven bought filters in years because so many people toss them out.


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