$600+ Buggys perform poorly
#106
Tech Apprentice


Why don't you say that about the A-main hobbies guys posting in here. They have posted that A-main link hundreds of times, and I don't see you throwing a fit like a little kid about that. What gives...?
I don't own Airland Hobbies, but I do buy lots of stuff from them, and they hook me up. So in return I will help let people know that there is another online shop just as big, called Airland Hobbies.com. So take'er easy... Spaztanic....
Anyways, why cant a guy help out the shop that they like, without someone freaking out...? Its not hurting anyone and they have good pricing on certain items. We could all save some cash if we posted sales and stuff on here from all over the web. Heck I've found tons useful links to all sorts of companies on RCTech, thats what this place is for.. sharing info.
Ohh... and if you haven't notice Airland Hobbies does pay for advertising in two major magazines, RCUniverse, RC-tech, UndergroundRC, and more. So your statement about paying for advertising is retarded, and I don't care if your sick of it.

http://www.airlandhobbies.com/pages/index.htm

#108

LOL!.... you crybaby...! 
Why don't you say that about the A-main hobbies guys posting in here. They have posted that A-main link hundreds of times, and I don't see you throwing a fit like a little kid about that. What gives...?
I don't own Airland Hobbies, but I do buy lots of stuff from them, and they hook me up. So in return I will help let people know that there is another online shop just as big, called Airland Hobbies.com. So take'er easy... Spaztanic....
Anyways, why cant a guy help out the shop that they like, without someone freaking out...? Its not hurting anyone and they have good pricing on certain items. We could all save some cash if we posted sales and stuff on here from all over the web. Heck I've found tons useful links to all sorts of companies on RCTech, thats what this place is for.. sharing info.
Ohh... and if you haven't notice Airland Hobbies does pay for advertising in two major magazines, RCUniverse, RC-tech, UndergroundRC, and more. So your statement about paying for advertising is retarded, and I don't care if your sick of it.
http://www.airlandhobbies.com/pages/index.htm


Why don't you say that about the A-main hobbies guys posting in here. They have posted that A-main link hundreds of times, and I don't see you throwing a fit like a little kid about that. What gives...?
I don't own Airland Hobbies, but I do buy lots of stuff from them, and they hook me up. So in return I will help let people know that there is another online shop just as big, called Airland Hobbies.com. So take'er easy... Spaztanic....
Anyways, why cant a guy help out the shop that they like, without someone freaking out...? Its not hurting anyone and they have good pricing on certain items. We could all save some cash if we posted sales and stuff on here from all over the web. Heck I've found tons useful links to all sorts of companies on RCTech, thats what this place is for.. sharing info.
Ohh... and if you haven't notice Airland Hobbies does pay for advertising in two major magazines, RCUniverse, RC-tech, UndergroundRC, and more. So your statement about paying for advertising is retarded, and I don't care if your sick of it.

http://www.airlandhobbies.com/pages/index.htm

#109

Actually, your're helping yourself by promoting yourself to Airlandhobbies, not the thread. Some of the "airlandhobbies" posts you're posting are for items that you're strictly steering to airlandhobbies, whether its a deal or not. Most people post to Amain, not to promote it, but because they have almost every item or picture of an RC item on the site and people use it for reference. You can find better prices online other than Amain, but a lot just post to it for picture posting.
+1
I dont have anything against you, at least I didn't, or against Airland. When people post links to Amain it's becuase people ask for it or to provide a pic. You guys LOOK for places to push them. There is a difference. Anyone can go back and look at your posts and see that. I might even buy something from them if the site wasn't such a pain in the azz. Again if you are trying to help someone with a question feel free to direct them to what you know. Just don't look for an excuse to push them.
If you wanna attack me personally feel free to take it to PM's. I dont recall calling you names.
Last edited by slaytanic; 09-25-2008 at 07:28 AM. Reason: SP
#110
Tech Apprentice

OMG... LOL!
OK, sorry about calling you Spaztanic.
OK, here is a "picture" of a $600 buggy that will perform like a $600.00 buggy. Thats all I wanted to say until the off subject attack.

...and it just so happens Airlands price for this buggy is $600 exactly what the thread title says... another reason I posted it.
Ohh and "Actually, your're helping yourself by promoting yourself to Airlandhobbies, not the thread." doesn't make sense. Sorry.
Ok back on subject..
Will the cheaper "less than $600.00 buggy" dominate local racing? What do you guys think?

OK, sorry about calling you Spaztanic.
OK, here is a "picture" of a $600 buggy that will perform like a $600.00 buggy. Thats all I wanted to say until the off subject attack.

...and it just so happens Airlands price for this buggy is $600 exactly what the thread title says... another reason I posted it.
Ohh and "Actually, your're helping yourself by promoting yourself to Airlandhobbies, not the thread." doesn't make sense. Sorry.
Ok back on subject..
Will the cheaper "less than $600.00 buggy" dominate local racing? What do you guys think?
Last edited by Inside_Line; 09-25-2008 at 11:48 AM.
#111
Tech Master
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I think to Hot Bodies will do good in local racing. The Not so rich, some faster drivers, and newbs on a budget are gonna flock to this car like seagulls. Local domination will create parts support, set ups, everything. Die Hards will pick there usual flavor, but there will be a strong following with the D8. But only time will tell.
#112
Tech Fanatic

What gets me before the worlds race alot kept going on and on 380 dollar buggy is a cheap no good car. It can't win the "big races" because it's cheap that means it has cheap building materials used in it. Now after the worlds race the D8 buggy well worked good on certain tracks. Well I'm sorry but with all the adjustment in these buggies have they can be tuned to work on "that" track or atleast happy in between. D8 has been raced and testing on many styles of tracks. That price also makes and bring in new poeple into the racing sence that we need
#113
Tech Addict

I agree the industry needs more entry level race cars. +1
Now if you could afford to run Kyosho, Mugen, Losi or Xray's new buggy, is the D8 still going to tempt you? Do you still think "you get what you pay for"?
How much does weight affect the performance? We often weigh buggies on a scale at our track to compare running weight. The lightest car so far has been a 100% stock Xray XB808 by far. The "stock" D8 weighs in much heavier, does this give the other buggies an advantage in corners, jumps and acceleration?
By the time you do things to lighten the D8 does it cost as much as the "over priced" buggy?
?
Now if you could afford to run Kyosho, Mugen, Losi or Xray's new buggy, is the D8 still going to tempt you? Do you still think "you get what you pay for"?
How much does weight affect the performance? We often weigh buggies on a scale at our track to compare running weight. The lightest car so far has been a 100% stock Xray XB808 by far. The "stock" D8 weighs in much heavier, does this give the other buggies an advantage in corners, jumps and acceleration?
By the time you do things to lighten the D8 does it cost as much as the "over priced" buggy?
?
#114
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I agree the industry needs more entry level race cars. +1
Now if you could afford to run Kyosho, Mugen, Losi or Xray's new buggy, is the D8 still going to tempt you? Do you still think "you get what you pay for"?
How much does weight affect the performance? We often weigh buggies on a scale at our track to compare running weight. The lightest car so far has been a 100% stock Xray XB808 by far. The "stock" D8 weighs in much heavier, does this give the other buggies an advantage in corners, jumps and acceleration?
By the time you do things to lighten the D8 does it cost as much as the "over priced" buggy?
?
Now if you could afford to run Kyosho, Mugen, Losi or Xray's new buggy, is the D8 still going to tempt you? Do you still think "you get what you pay for"?
How much does weight affect the performance? We often weigh buggies on a scale at our track to compare running weight. The lightest car so far has been a 100% stock Xray XB808 by far. The "stock" D8 weighs in much heavier, does this give the other buggies an advantage in corners, jumps and acceleration?
By the time you do things to lighten the D8 does it cost as much as the "over priced" buggy?
?
For me, im going to be getting an MP9 in the mail for one reason;
I owned an 8IGHT for a short amount of time, even though I dont talk about it much. This car got so sloppy and worn out it was embarrassing to think that I spent money on it
I also owned an RC8 for a few months, again it got so sloppy it was ridiculous.
I just recently sold a 7-8 year old Kyosho 7.5. I raced this thing competitively weekly, for a good 2 and a half years. I spent a year "bashing" it around the yard and parks after my local dirt track closed down, needless to say this car saw some use. I never once replaced a part on the car, and to the day when I sold it a couple weeks ago, theres still not one Iota of slop anywhere. Thats quality, plain and simple.
#115
Tech Fanatic

Good Post. I am in no way tempted by the D8 at all, buying "budget" equipment just isnt appealing to me. People can say rabble rabble D8 won the worlds until they're blue in the face, but it wasnt stock. Kyosho has bad luck, Mugen did quite well, Losi did quite well, seems like maybe Xray had some bad luck. I just boils down to brand loyalty, and your pocket book. Anybody can win with any car if the equation is right, im a firm believer of that.
For me, im going to be getting an MP9 in the mail for one reason;
I owned an 8IGHT for a short amount of time, even though I dont talk about it much. This car got so sloppy and worn out it was embarrassing to think that I spent money on it
I also owned an RC8 for a few months, again it got so sloppy it was ridiculous.
I just recently sold a 7-8 year old Kyosho 7.5. I raced this thing competitively weekly, for a good 2 and a half years. I spent a year "bashing" it around the yard and parks after my local dirt track closed down, needless to say this car saw some use. I never once replaced a part on the car, and to the day when I sold it a couple weeks ago, theres still not one Iota of slop anywhere. Thats quality, plain and simple.
For me, im going to be getting an MP9 in the mail for one reason;
I owned an 8IGHT for a short amount of time, even though I dont talk about it much. This car got so sloppy and worn out it was embarrassing to think that I spent money on it
I also owned an RC8 for a few months, again it got so sloppy it was ridiculous.
I just recently sold a 7-8 year old Kyosho 7.5. I raced this thing competitively weekly, for a good 2 and a half years. I spent a year "bashing" it around the yard and parks after my local dirt track closed down, needless to say this car saw some use. I never once replaced a part on the car, and to the day when I sold it a couple weeks ago, theres still not one Iota of slop anywhere. Thats quality, plain and simple.
Ok but you going to tell me that the kyosho wasn't modified for the "worlds race". They all still have to meet the min weight
2nd I had alot of r/c cars they all wear and get sloppy. The kyosho wears and gets sloppy just like the rest of them in the same amount of time I've had kyosho's before. We are racing on dirt and it effects are r/c cars alot in wear items well unless you don't race it and bought it for a show car as in you buy it and build and then sell it. So then you can claim I've owned one then post bad reviews on something you never ran.
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Good Post. I am in no way tempted by the D8 at all, buying "budget" equipment just isnt appealing to me. People can say rabble rabble D8 won the worlds until they're blue in the face, but it wasnt stock. Kyosho has bad luck, Mugen did quite well, Losi did quite well, seems like maybe Xray had some bad luck. I just boils down to brand loyalty, and your pocket book. Anybody can win with any car if the equation is right, im a firm believer of that.
For me, im going to be getting an MP9 in the mail for one reason;
I owned an 8IGHT for a short amount of time, even though I dont talk about it much. This car got so sloppy and worn out it was embarrassing to think that I spent money on it
I also owned an RC8 for a few months, again it got so sloppy it was ridiculous.
I just recently sold a 7-8 year old Kyosho 7.5. I raced this thing competitively weekly, for a good 2 and a half years. I spent a year "bashing" it around the yard and parks after my local dirt track closed down, needless to say this car saw some use. I never once replaced a part on the car, and to the day when I sold it a couple weeks ago, theres still not one Iota of slop anywhere. Thats quality, plain and simple.
For me, im going to be getting an MP9 in the mail for one reason;
I owned an 8IGHT for a short amount of time, even though I dont talk about it much. This car got so sloppy and worn out it was embarrassing to think that I spent money on it
I also owned an RC8 for a few months, again it got so sloppy it was ridiculous.
I just recently sold a 7-8 year old Kyosho 7.5. I raced this thing competitively weekly, for a good 2 and a half years. I spent a year "bashing" it around the yard and parks after my local dirt track closed down, needless to say this car saw some use. I never once replaced a part on the car, and to the day when I sold it a couple weeks ago, theres still not one Iota of slop anywhere. Thats quality, plain and simple.
Some wear quicker than others, good luck finding a competitive car at this time that never develops slop or breaks under a hard impact in the right place. Talking to a regular A final pro Kyosho driver and checking out his car there was plenty of slop. Mark Pavidis is on record talking about the MP9 saying they have built in plastic bushings so they wear out rather than the main more expensive parts getting sloppy. AE already did that with bushings on the RC8. The guys winning stuff all the time with Losi cars aren't embaressed about the slop, they accept that having a light, fast car that can be tuned to the Nth degree comes with the fact that with use they wear out... and any form of motorsport is expensive in parts.
If you want a car that is as strong and doesn't wear out like your 7.5 best bet is to get another 7.5. No car is perfect in the terms you are looking for AND competitive at any real level.
I do however agree that any car can win if the equation is right, the D8's win is proof of that. It's a shame that isn't the thing that is being celebrated much.
#120

You forgot to mention the super sloppy RC8 had a little bad luck as well. TQ and leading the race until a flame out.
Some wear quicker than others, good luck finding a competitive car at this time that never develops slop or breaks under a hard impact in the right place. Talking to a regular A final pro Kyosho driver and checking out his car there was plenty of slop. Mark Pavidis is on record talking about the MP9 saying they have built in plastic bushings so they wear out rather than the main more expensive parts getting sloppy. AE already did that with bushings on the RC8. The guys winning stuff all the time with Losi cars aren't embaressed about the slop, they accept that having a light, fast car that can be tuned to the Nth degree comes with the fact that with use they wear out... and any form of motorsport is expensive in parts.
If you want a car that is as strong and doesn't wear out like your 7.5 best bet is to get another 7.5. No car is perfect in the terms you are looking for AND competitive at any real level.
Some wear quicker than others, good luck finding a competitive car at this time that never develops slop or breaks under a hard impact in the right place. Talking to a regular A final pro Kyosho driver and checking out his car there was plenty of slop. Mark Pavidis is on record talking about the MP9 saying they have built in plastic bushings so they wear out rather than the main more expensive parts getting sloppy. AE already did that with bushings on the RC8. The guys winning stuff all the time with Losi cars aren't embaressed about the slop, they accept that having a light, fast car that can be tuned to the Nth degree comes with the fact that with use they wear out... and any form of motorsport is expensive in parts.
If you want a car that is as strong and doesn't wear out like your 7.5 best bet is to get another 7.5. No car is perfect in the terms you are looking for AND competitive at any real level.
